Wonderful whole body scanners

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  1. dc3
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    An attractive female in our office went through TSA security wearing a sleeveless blouse. TSA pulled her aside for second look, since the TSA machine scanner/reader said there was something funny about her arms that needed to be examined, since they triggered some alarm/additional search on thier machine. The puzzled TSA staff at the scanner didn't know what to do, since her arms were totally exposed.

    Afterwards we all told her to stop working out at LA fitness.

    I guess without TSA the employment rate would be back over 8%; perhaps even 9%.
     
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    The Germans said those machines have a false positive rate of 52%, so it's not a surprise.

    I think the general public would be outraged if they knew how the entire hot dog was made on those machines.....from Chertoff lining his pockets, to how the TSA refuses to make public independent reports about the machines, how often they break down, the cost, and as mentioned above, the 52% false positive rate.

    No wonder The G is buying tanks the military does not want.
     
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    I always get false positives from tiny decorative beads sewn on my jeans! It would be funny if it weren't so sad:mad:
     
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    Who is Chertoff....? And what or who is G...??

    Please forgive the dumb questions, but I have no clue....

    Details please.

    Thank you.
     
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    OK... so I will ask the obvious question. Where is the pic of this colleague of yours....?
     
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    "Chertoff" is Michael Chertoff, the former Homeland Security Director, who oversees the TSA.

    After working for the government (by the way, "The G" is another term for the U.S. Government), many high-level folks get lucrative work in the private sector. Chertoff is no exception.

    This article, while a little kooky, explains the situation pretty well.
     
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    Thanks.... for Chertoff went from TSA boss to working for contractors that sell gear to the TSA.....????????

    :eek:
     
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    That's the American way.
     
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    ==

    If I did, I would only post a picture of each arm. :
     
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    I'm more concerned about false negatives. What's the rate of those?
     
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    Call Kodak.
     
  12. mikeef
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    Unfortunately, the general public has already made its response known, and it is, "Well, as long as they keep me safe, I don't care how it's produced or what it costs." Cognitive dissonance reigns supreme at the airport.

    Mike
     
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    Hence my question about false negatives. I can live with 52% FP rate if FN rate is sufficiently low and sufficiently lower than that of alternatives. After all, false positives are only a nuisance. Not letting stuff through is what this is all about, right?

    P.S. "False negative" is an actual term used in security systems, especially software security: http://www.sans.org/security-resources/idfaq/false_negative.php. I doubt Kodak would know anything about that. :)
     
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    Shouldn't we have found out if there were any false negatives? Wouldn't that mean some bad guys managed to sneak through the marvel that is the TSA to do some bad stuff on planes? Or were they caught at the next of the 19 layers of security or however many there are supposed to be?
     
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    The machines pick up sweat or parts of body that are hot. Wen I wear a backpack, I almost always get a check for my back.
     
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    Thank you so much for share the great information..!!
     

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