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Discussion in 'American Airlines | AAdvantage' started by MPerski, Mar 20, 2013.
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Any word on IF and WHEN Will AA & US Airways merge miles from their respective programs?
I think it goes without saying that the two accounts will be merged sometime in the future. There's not an official annoucement from US/AA on how and when that will take place though. So any questions about million miler status, time frame for booking award tickets, etc... cannot be answered at this point.
Welcome to MP by the way.
Deal won't close until the 3rd quarter of the year sometime presumably
After that there will be an opportunity to move miles back and forth between accounts most likely (HP/US, NW/DL, UA/CO all did that)
And ultimately after that accounts in the two programs will get merged. Could it be 1 year from now? Possibly. Could it be 2 years from now? Sure.
No, there will be no word on IF or WHEN until the merger deal actually closes (until that happens AA and US get run as separate, competing businesses, with a small "clean room" team handling the merger and most employees continuing to do their jobs as normal- doing otherwise would leave them open to a lawsuit). We can extrapolate from past experience like gleff did, but it's waaaaaayyy too soon to be asking for concrete dates and plans.
When you start seeing planes get painted, that'll be the time
Well, if AA is to contuine to be lead airline, and if the past (AA/TWA) is any guide, yes, you'll get a merged account, with lifetime credit for miles earned in the account merged into the surviving account.
And if the surviving airline is to be in One World, the odds are the surviving FF account will be AAdvantage (although a new program with a new name is not beyond the realm of possibility -- now we can start speculating on what the hypothetical new program would do to lifetime status and perks granted in the old programs. )
Not sure why you've listed these as an "if". We already know these things.
They are being repainted...at least the AA ones. And that's the livery the new carrier will be using. As for merging FF programs, while it would be nice to see it happen in time for next March's start of the new benefit year, that may not be enough time to define which program will dominate. Since the merged carrier will still be called American, one could assume the FF program will be named AAdvantage, though it will be an amalgam of (the best) of each program (fingers crossed). Pretty sure we'll be seeing a 75K tier since US has one, as does just about every other NAmerican program. SWUs/eVIPs will be the interesting benefit yet to be defined, as will NAmerican upgrading, since AA limits unlimiteds to ExecPlats and requires credits or miles for everyone else. IIRC US has a more liberal approach akin to UA's UDU, in addition to certs and miles. All speculation, of course, but worth a closer look at the elite beneifis of each tier between each program.
The one thing that everybody knows for sure is that it's going to be a mess.
that perhaps is the understatement of the year
No official word, but whispers and rumors tend to suggest that new American will be rather more aggressive in its FF integration timetable than was the case for DL/NW or UA/CO -- in part because the carriers are in different alliances, and also to minimize the period of post-merger uncertainty on program terms and benefits that competitors will undoubtedly attempt to exploit (just as AA did in its competitors' prior mergers).
To the point, it's my understanding that, provided the merger closes on or close to schedule, the goal is to phase out Dividend Miles at the end of the current Preferred year (which runs until February 28, 2014.
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AA has stated already that there's no intent to add a fourth level.
Hopefully not. We do not need a fourth tier like the others.
Soon "we" will include US Platinum Preferred, who probably won't be big fans of paying $30 for every sticker and being behind lifetime Platinums or people who fly 50,001-74,999 miles on the upgrade lists.
When was this? It might not go down well with US elites who are in the 75K-99K range each year and enjoy having enhanced benefits over those down near 50K. UA faced this same situation since CO's top tier was 75K. If it had not added a 75K tier there's have been a rebellion from the CO elites. I'd say the same thing would be the case for US elites in this tier. (There's also a strong argument for such a tier given the first two tiers are separated by 25K, but the net jump is 50K. Those who don't cross 100K get lumped into the huge mid-tier whether they earn 51K or 99K.
If that is the case then I guess the UA/CO merger is still not done. Can still find old UA paint jobs on some rj's at IAH.
Check out some of the overhaul hangers at EWR and IAH too...still Continental!
I might try that next week while I'm home, going up on the top level of the parking garage at IAH is a pretty good place to take some pics. (Yes i am a dork/nerd with no life)
If AA wanted to keep its present structure, one way to smoothen the transition would be to offer the US 75'ers a special one time EXP, perhaps with only 4 SWUs to keep the 100K folks feeling differentiated. After the first year everybody plays by the same rules.
Or no SWU's and just exp privs.
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I missed that -- do you have a reference handy, or can you say where AA said this?
It was in a recent post here quoting an interview with AA, maybe even Horton. Don't have the link handy and search on the iPhone sucks.
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... which means nothing pre-merger while AA and US are being run as separate businesses. "Well, we didn't have intent THEN..."