Why is there availibility on miles and more for award flights to zurich and not bookable thru ana or

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  1. smh88

    smh88 Silver Member

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    I see award flights to zurich in 1st thru miles and more but can't seem to see the same availibility when trying to get those same flights thru a star alliance partner award? Does miles and more make awards only for use thru their program? Is there a different way to find them or does lh keep them for their program and just open them up as it gets closer to departure for other star alliance partner awards like ana or areoplan?
     
  2. ArizonaGuy
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    Most programs have additional flights available to their own members which are not available for partner redemption. Miles & More is no different - if AC or ANA don't show availability but Miles & More does, you aren't going to be able to get the award unless you have Miles & More miles to redeem.

    As far as when / if award space will become available to partners, it always depends on the route and the time/date of the route. Often availability will increase in the last two to three months, and again in the last week or two before departure. But every airline is different in this regard.
     
  3. gleff
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    I'd disagree slightly, it's not really correct to say that most airlines offer additional award seats to their own members that they don't offer to partners.

    But certainly Lufthansa and Swiss do. Miles & More members do have access to award seats on Lufthansa and Swiss that the rest of the Star Alliance does not have access to.
     
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    I have noticed that within the ST group, AF-KLM FB members also have different award availability compared to redeeming miles via other ST airlines. So, on this observation, this is quite a common practice, which is logic as the airlines do not have to pay too much money if their members try to fly another even if within the same alliance airline. It all comes down to economics :)
     
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    SQ does this and, in fact, before the benefit expired, they offered seats for DL miles that they did not offer to *A partners.

    Another example is that KE has more seats available to its own members and SkyTeam members other than DL because of the crazy way DL implements KE's blackout dates. (A blackout date that KE applies to some part of its network DL applies to all KE flights, so that using DL miles on KE means that about five months of every year are totally blacked out.) However, this issue arises from the DL side; it isn't KE's policy that restricts the seats available to its partners.

    You could also argue that any carrier that offers enhanced award availability to its own elites (such as DL for domestic coach low awards and I think AA for some awards) by definition is offering more seats to its own FFs than to its partners.
     

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