Who will, should and did win a Freddie?

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  1. Mikel
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    2012 marks the return of the Freddie Awards, with Milepoint as a proud sponsor.

    Who do you think will win? Who do you think should win? Why might those two predictions differ?

    The categories:
    Best Earning Promotion
    Best Redemption Promotion
    Best Redemption Ability
    Best Customer Service
    Best Loyalty Credit Card
    Best Elite Program
    Program of the Year

    Make your predictions/cases now, and when the results are announced we'll discover who has their fingers on the pulse of the frequent traveling public.
     
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    Best Earning Promotion - Priority Club / American Airlines
    Best Redemption Promotion - Accor / American Airlines
    Best Redemption Ability - Starwood / United Airlines
    Best Customer Service - Hyatt / American Airlines
    Best Loyalty Credit Card - Starwood / American Airlines
    Best Elite Program - Hyatt / American Airlines
    Program of the Year - Hyatt / American AIrlines
     
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    Best Earning Promotion - Club Carlson / USAirways
    Best Redemption Ability - Starwood / United Airlines
    Best Customer Service - Hyatt / American Airlines
    Best Loyalty Credit Card - Starwood / United Airlines
    Best Elite Program - Hyatt / American Airlines
    Program of the Year - Hyatt / American AIrlines
     
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  4. Randy Petersen
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    While early, it seems American is pretty popular here. Tough call for me, I've been happy w/ United though I was always just a bit happier w/ Continental and in the hotel category, I love the cash & points w/ SPG, but remain sentimental to Priority Club and have never been let down by Hilton and have long rooted for Choice and Best Western. This is tougher than choosing winners on The Voice. WWALS? What Would Adam Levine Say?
     
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    Most Surprising Website: Delta.com

    (I'm not specifying what sort of surprises....)
     
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    Noticed a strong preference for the Starwood credit card. I think I'd have to agree that it will likely be right up there. Not sure about an overall win though because they have been so many HUGE bonus offers and that might spur some of vote for those offers rather than looking at the overall benefits and utility of the card. I certainly remember the day when Diners Club rules the Freddies.
     
  7. canucklehead
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    I used to LOVE Diners Club, but I think I might be aging myself there! ;)
     
  8. LarryInNYC

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    I nominate myself in the "Most Clueless" category.
     
  9. DeltaExpert
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    Wonder if Delta can take home an award tonight?
     
  10. Randy Petersen
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    And they did. I saw that they were "on the board" with several Top 4 finishes and actually took home a Freddie in a close showdown with Starwood American Express in the loyalty credit card category for their SkyMiles American Express card.
     
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    2012 FREDDIES: AIRLINES

    Program of the year
    Americas: American Airlines (AAdvantage)
    Europe/Africa: Turkish Airlines (Miles&Smiles)
    MiddleEast/Asia/Oceania: Jet Airways (JetPrivilege)

    Best redemption ability
    Americas: TAM (Fidelidade)
    Europe/Africa: airBaltic (BalticMiles)
    MiddleEast/Asia/Oceania: Etihad Airways (Etihad Guest)

    Best promotion (redemption)
    Americas: Delta Air Lines (SkyMiles: Travel in Style for Half the Miles – SkyMiles International Upgrade Program)
    Europe/Africa: Lufthansa (Miles & More: Upgrade Discount)
    MiddleEast/Asia/Oceania: El Al (Matmid Club: Upgrade Assured)

    Best promotion (earning)
    Americas: American Airlines (AAdvantage: Double elite-qualifying miles)
    Europe/Africa: Lufthansa (Miles & More: Miles & More Every Flight Counts Promotion)
    MiddleEast/Asia/Oceania: Jet Airways (JetPrivilege: A Trip Well Advised!)

    Best customer service

    Americas: American Airlines (AAdvantage)
    Europe/Africa: Lufthansa (Miles & More)
    MiddleEast/Asia/Oceania: Jet Airways (JetPrivilege)

    Best Elite Program
    Americas: American Airlines (AAdvantage)
    Europe/Africa: airBaltic (BalticMiles)
    MiddleEast/Asia/Oceania: Etihad Airways (Etihad Guest)

    2012 FREDDIES: HOTELS

    Program of the year
    Americas: Marriott Hotels (Marriott Rewards)
    Europe/Africa: Starwood Hotels (Starwood Preferred Guest)
    MiddleEast/Asia/Oceania: Taj Hotels (Inner Circle)

    Best redemption promotion
    Americas: Marriott Hotels (Marriott Rewards: Point Savers)
    Europe/Africa: Starwood Hotels (Starwood Preferred Guest: SPG Moments)
    MiddleEast/Asia/Oceania: (Starwood Preferred Guest: SPG Moments)

    Best earning promotion

    Americas: Starwood Hotels (Starwood Preferred Guest: SPG Getaway Free)
    Europe/Africa: (Starwood Preferred Guest: SPG Getaway Free)
    MiddleEast/Asia/Oceania: Accor Hotels (A|Club: Bring Back Smiles to Thailand)

    Best redemption ability
    Americas: Marriott Hotels (Marriott Rewards)
    Europe/Africa: Starwood Hotels (Starwood Preferred Guest)
    MiddleEast/Asia/Oceania: Taj Hotels (Inner Circle)

    Best customer service
    Americas: Marriott Hotels (Marriott Rewards)
    Europe/Africa: Starwood Hotels (Starwood Preferred Guest)
    MiddleEast/Asia/Oceania: Taj Hotels (Inner Circle)

    Best Elite Program
    Americas: Marriott Hotels (Marriott Rewards)
    Europe/Africa: Starwood Hotels (Starwood Preferred Guest)
    MiddleEast/Asia/Oceania: Hyatt Hotels (Hyatt Gold Passport)

    2012 FREDDIES: CREDIT CARDS
    Best Loyalty Credit Cards
    Americas: Delta Air Lines (SkyMiles Credit Card from American Express)
    Europe/Africa: Turkish Airlines (Shop&Miles Credit Card from Garanti)
    MiddleEast/Asia/Oceania: Etihad Airways (Etihad Guest Above Credit Card from ADCB)
     
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  12. Counsellor
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    The problem with the SkyMiles AMEX is that what you get is SkyPesos. With Starwood AMEX you get Starpoints, which are the stem cells of the miles/points universe because they can be used (and converted) into so many programs (not to mention, of course, the award-winning SPG itself).
     
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    That DL amex is valuble to silvers and non-elites, tho. All the extra bags, decent loading zone, etc...

    i no longer have mine due to having gold status.

    not sure how marriott practically swept the hotel America categories tho.
     
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    It was pretty wild seeing SPG take so many awards last night. The feel good story was Baltic air that won two awards. Very surprised how certain hotels and airlines didn't even make the top 4. Great evening...thanks Randy, Tommy, Pizzaman, Gary and all that helped put it together.
     
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    It was good to see TAM win for redemption. Nothing can beat the 15,000 mile South America award that allows you to take any flight with availability, any time. That is a major reason why many of us use them. The rest of the program...not so wonderful.

    LATAM will change that, I hope for the better.
     
  16. Steven Schwartz
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    I've always felt interested in the Freddies and was happy they were returning. But if Marriott can win for the Best Elite Hotel, well, I'm really speechless. I know there's no accounting for taste but this stupefies me.

    Then for them to also win Best Redemptions??!! Hmmm - 50,000 points per night for top versus 22,000 for Hyatt and 30-35,000 for Starwood. Add Starwoods potential for award suite upgrades and Hyatt's 4 guaranteed suite upgrades and - yup, stupefied again.

    I can only assume that someone successfully gamed the system. Shame.
     
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    I am actually surprised that American Airlines was nominated for anything. American Airlines has the worst customer service and routinely cancels accrued frequent flyer miles without any logical justification.
     
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    Sad to say I agree completely. I voted for SPG, would have understood Hyatt but am mystified by Marriott. Having been top elite in those three plus Hilton, Marriott is a clear fourth place IMO, except in number of properties.
     
  19. Counsellor
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    I suspect the "Best Redemptions" was based in part on the Travel Awards that allow you to redeem up to 120,000 Marriott Rewards points 1 for 1 for airline miles (and since if you're Platinum and use the Marriott Rewards VISA, you earn 20 points per dollar spent at most Marriott properties, that gives you a redemption rate of 20 miles per dollar).

    Remember, too, that hotel points are not comparable one-for-one. As noted, you can earn 20 Marriott points per dollar spent, while with Starwood it's more like 5 points per dollar spent, so 50K Marriott points means $2,500 spend while 35K Starpoints takes closer to $7,000 spend.
     
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    Really? That hasn't been my experience. In fact, I've never heard of it happening to anyone I know. Unless you're talking about the routine expiration of miles due to long periods of inactivity, but that's common for all programs except for Delta.
     
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    EXP Desk is very, very good, and probably a lot of people who voted for AA are EXP. In the past, as a Gold and Platinum, I was treated very well, and I think that most AA CS know the rules and also geography. AAngels are also very good.
     
  22. HaveMilesWillTravel
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    The Oscars usually don't reflect my thinking of what the good/best movies/actors/... were that year, so I don't pay a whole lot of attention to them. It's a glamarous show/party and the winners get to advertise their movies with the "Academy Award Winner" logo.

    I've always felt it was a similar situation with the various travel awards.
     
  23. Steven Schwartz
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    I hear you but - I've been following this stuff for years (as I assume you have) and can't recall Marriott ever beating what we on MP and FT would consider the perennial favorites.
     
  24. Steven Schwartz
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    I guess there are two types of people who play this game - those who accrue most of their points on stays and others, like me, who get most from credit card spending. Your point is well taken for those who belong to the first category but not at all accurate for the second group. If I'm going to spend $50,000 on my credit card, I would much rather have two nights at the Park Hyatt Paris Vendome (with 6,000 left over) than one night at any Marriott!
     
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    I had a great time last night and while there were some surprises, the whole event was amazing. So happy to be part of it! The number of people attending was super impressive and shows how much the travel industry supports loyalty programs.

    Having attended, I now want to try out AirBaltic and others.

    While I am not a Marriott loyalist, they did win on the average of their evaluations and do have one of the largest hotel collections which may have been an attraction to voters. Nevertheless, one program I use a lot - SPG - came out very well. Let's hope the competition drives the loyalty programs to continue to innovate and improve!
     

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