Which Starwood Property in Buenos Aires

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  1. Punki
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    We will be taking our very first trip to Buenos Aires and know nothing about the city or the hotels.

    Which Starwood property would you choose?
     
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    I've always read that the Palacio Duhau (Park Hyatt Buenos Aires) hotel, is one of the best hotels in all of S America, let alone Buenos Aires.
     
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    I can tell you this after being there in 1/11. The Park Tower and Sheraton Convention center are connected and share the same pool/spa area. Both are nice, Park Tower is on it's way to needing a refresh but a nice place to stay just the same. It's a quick walk to the main train station for going out of town as well as the subway system. It's right on the edge of downtown, easy to walk anywhere but there is nothing except a Starbucks within a 5 minute walk. If you walk for 10-15 minutes then you have Calle Florida (tourist shops) and Puerto Madero which is awesome with parks, restaurants, the river, etc. Depending on how adventurous you are, some will tell you it's better to stay closer to Recoleta. I think the two areas equal each other in the end. Just depends on how much you want to walk/take taxis and if you insist on being able to walk 5 minutes and have restaurants etc. right there. In that case, Recoleta might be better for you.
     
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    Buenos Aires has many hotels that are not part of any chain, off the top I can think of only a handful that are part of the common brands:
    PH - Located near Recoleta
    Four Seasons - Sort of in Recoleta
    Sheraton and Park Tower - Essentially Retiro near Micro Center
    Sheraton Libertador - Micro Center
    Hilton - Puerto Madero
    Marriott - Closer to Micro Center ( 2 blocks up from Sheraton and Park Tower)
    Sofitel - Also Recoleta area

    The newer hotels are all small boutique types in Recoleta, Palermo Soho & Hollywood, and San Telmo. Starwood does not offer much IMO.
     
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    We love to walk, but we also love to be near the action. I guess we could use some of our orphan point in Hyatt or Marriott.
     
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    As you are probably leaving at night, you will want your late SPG checkout, which you won't get with your orphan points. All 3 Starwood properties are very convenient. I don't have much more to add to what has been said above about them. As you might be arriving fairly early, your SPG status might help your room be available earlier, too.

    Hotels have gotten fairly expensive again - at least the majors, as there hasn't been much hotel building since 2001. However, you won't be there during peak season, which should help (if you are using money).
     
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    If you have enough orphan points for the Hyatt- this is the place to spend them- one of the top Park Hyatts worldwide (and usually very expensive if you pay). I personally like the Hilton as the area is full of restaurants- however some complain it is not the "authentic" B.A.- my local friends frequently liked to go there however. The Hilton is very popular on weekends- by the way the lunch buffet at the Hilton has excellent quality and a huge selection.

    Sheraton is not a great option to me in B.A. unless you are attending a convention (the hotel is really set up for that I think).
     
  8. Skye1
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    All 3 SPG prop's are fine, & I'd just go w/ whichever has the best rates for your stay dates.

    Some chose the prop based on location and/or proximity to what they want to do. AWhilst the Park Tower and Sheraton Conv. Centre are listed as two separate prop's, they're on the same spot, and just a short walk from the Libertador, so IMHO, no need to chose between the 3 based on "location." All 3 are a short walk to the ferry terminal if you're catching a ferry for a nice day trip to Colonia. All 3 are near the train station/Retiro if you're catching a train for a nice day trip to, say, Tigre. All 3 are a cheap taxi ride over to Aeroparque, the domestic airport, if you've a domestic flight to Iguazu, Califate, Bariloche, Mendoza, etc. All 3 are right at the doorstep of the bustling touristy-shoppy area of Florida street, all around the corner from decent and affordable steak places like El Establo. All 3 are a short taxi ride up Av. Libertador toward FT's Gaucho100k's fantastic wine shop (the man knows his malbec, and he'll get you the best he can find for whatever your budget is), which is practically across the street from Palermo's beautiful gardens. Are 3 are a short taxi-ride (or a long, but do-able walk, or possibly a subte ride & walk) from the cafes & cemetary of Recoleta. All 3 are a short taxi from the quirky, colorful digs of La Boca. And all those taxis just aren't ridiculously expensive. Or, you can get the handy collectivo (bus) map and get some local colour on the buses. Just pick the one w/ the best price for your days, enjoy the status you've earned w/ SPG and let it "work" for you, and you'll be fine.

    Flights to EZE from N.A. arrive in the am, flights ex-EZE depart at night, so I agree w/ the above re: that if you have SPG status, might come in handy for an early arrival and/or late checkout. For example, as an SPG Plat, I enjoyed getting to the hotel from my overnight flight and being able to enjoy a tasty breakfast buffet in the club lounge & go have a bit of a nap before heading into the city. AND, it was nice to be able to enjoy a late afternoon in the city, go back to the hotel & pack up & grab a bite in the lounge before heading to the airport.

    That said, by way of counterpoint, s tough thing about chosing a location in Buenos Aires is that it is a city of neighborhoods, each with its own distinct flavour and feel, and you may not find a "one-size-fits-all" location that puts your finger on the pulse of all of them, unless you go off-chain to one of the many botique hotels around. And that's not a bad idea either, as the "action" that such a place puts you close to would be what makes that particular neighborhood so worth a visit.
     
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    The one thing about the 3 Starwood properties are that they are in locations without flavo(u)r ;)
     
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    Agreed. Personally, I'm NOT a fan of the Florida St. area. BUT, many people are, so to each their own. I suppose the possible downside of getting a boutique hotel in one of the various, cool neighborhoods would be not being able to check-in early on arrival, or linger longer on the day of departure, but it never hurts to ask. Failing that, I suppose one could book an SPG prop for arrival day, and for departure day, or for the day when prxomity to the train station or ferry terminal would be convenient, with more local/colorful options in between.
     
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    I've stayed at the Libertador several times. It is perfectly fine. The "presidental" suite is a trippy time machine to the 70s. And yes, it is in the Platinum upgrade pool. I actually like the location (convenience-wise) a tad more than the other properties. Meanwhile, I just gave up on hotels and bought a place :)
     
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    I had been planning to stay at the Sheraton and then got lucky with a FFN promo right before I went, and switched to the Park Hyatt. The Park Hyatt is a fantastic hotel, and if you have Hyatt points it is worth considering. Even though I walked about 7-8 miles each day, I found that one will need to take a fair amount of taxis from any of the chain hotels if you want to see a variety of neighborhoods. The area around the PH is extremely quiet after dark, the area around the Sheratons is busier but very convention-y, and the Hilton is a hike from anything.

    Do search for one of the online walking tours - the group I used was a father/son operation, the father had moved from BA to Victoria BC to raise his kids and then moved back when the kids got older and the economy improved. I can't remember the name for the life of me, but they start the morning tours at the famous cafe off of Calle Florida.
     
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    Depending upon your budget, for Starwoods I would start with the obvious, the Park Towers, located atop the Sheraton. Though off from the centre of the city -- as well as Ricoletta, San Telmo and other districts you will want to visit -- it is the most luxurious of the properties. For location and treatment of elites, though somewhat less luxurious but a lot less per night, I would (and have) stay at the Sheraton Liberatador which is in the heart of the city for easy walking to many sights you'll want to see, as well as subway lines to get to other parts of the city. Staff is friendly and even got a Club upgrade as a Gold. Others have posted details of the city, which I quite enjoy visiting (until recently when the Argentine government slapped a usurous entry visa fee on we Canadians!).
     
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    Visa (and payment of visa fee) is required of Americans as well. IIRC,, purchase-able on arrival at EZE, and lasts for 10 years. It's the "sticker" type visa that is affixed to a page within your passport.

    i might suggest a few minutes of research to see if this can be obtained before travel, as it's quite a long quue on arrival in EZE to get one, if you don't already have one, and then you'd still queue for immigration/customs after that.
     
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    Unfortunately, ours is only single trip visas unlike yours which are basically for the life of your passport.
     
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    No, you can only purchase at time of arrival. Sometimes there is no line at all.
     
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    Isn't it the case that the Sheraton at Convention Center doesn't have to give late checkouts because it's a convention center hotel? Or is the common experience that they always honor that benefit for Plats even though they're not required by SPG to do so?
     
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    Can't answer the "do they have to?" angle, but I've never had a problem getting a late checkout. In fact, a couple of times, they graciously allowed not only a late (4pm) but a 6pm checkout at no extra charge, and ensured club lounge access until then. Worked great for catching a bite to eat before heading over to EZE for an evening flight onward.
     
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    A resorts and conference/convention center hotels, if they are operationally able to offer a 4 PM late check-out, then they are supposed to allow it.

    Best regards,

    William R. Sanders
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    spgchampion@starwoodhotels.com
     
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    That's not Starwood!;) But a great hotel, surely by reputation one of the very best!:)
     
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    correct, the Palacio Duhau isn't an SPG property but the OP didn't know anything about the city or hotels in Buenos Aires so I felt a suggestion was in order.:)
     
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    And a great suggestion it is. One of the very top in B.A. The Sunday brunch ranks on my very top list worldwide.
     
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    Liberator would be my vote since this is in the SPG forum. The park hyatt, especially if you are a diamond is an amazing property in the old part. The new part (tower) is standard. The marrriott is very well located as well. Liberator is usually one of the focus hotels of Cow Do.
     
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    Thanks for all of the useful info in these posts. I am taking a weekend trip in June and staying at the Park Tower with C&P at a great rate... that includes butler service... ;)
     
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    Having just wrapped up a stay at the Libertador I must say I was not impressed. The room was seemingly recently renovated but it lacked the little things. The office chair was stiff and didn't recline. The room service was pretty bad and the hotel's "partnership" with a premium radio taxi company ended up in one of the taxi drivers trying to rip me off by starting the meter before we were ready to go and then holding my bags hostage for an extra 5 pesos. That and the fact the hotel seemed understaffed and lacks a true lobby sit down area are why I won't be back there any time soon. I really like the location of the Park Tower/ Convention Center Sheraton though since it is walking distance to the Manuel Tienda Leon station meaning you can leave 10 minutes before the bus and make it to the airport in about an hour.
     
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