My wife has 8900 orphan points in club Carlson which is ok but of little value to us since the properties we tend to stay at all require 10s of thousands. I most likely will just leave them in place and hope they grow. We had orginally built them up from misc promo deals in hopes for a 2012 US air grandslam hit but I started wondering if they are of more value to us as air miles. Checking the conversions I noticed the ability to exchange them for 250 Avios per 2k or about 1000 Avios for us. This might be a better question for the BA forum but it seems like a better value as Avios as we have a lot in that program. Which would you rather have? Also I have about 70k in club C points which at 50k the redemtion is higher at 8k Avios which is also tempting as that's enough for a domestic one way or almost enough for a short haul round trip. If i traded out the whole 70k it would be 10500 avios. Even the cheap airline tickets in exchange might be a Bette value than the hotel redemption. I know it depends on the property of course. I also looked into buying the club C points and converting them but club C only lets you buy 40k per year at about $280 which would convert to 5k Avios (plus the 280 credit card avios earned less any addl tax of fees) which is not really worth it unless you really need the Avios.