US Airways gets 7,000th Airbus as a A321

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  1. Sean Colahan
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    Just ran across this article.

    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gene...dline=Airbus, Boeing Mark Delivery Milestones

    Wonder which 737 they are getting rid up with this replacement or if they are adding it into expanding capacity.

    By the end of the year, Airbus says US Airways will operate a fleet of 93 A319s, 72 A320s, 63 A321s and 16 A330s. The airline also has firm orders for an additional 58 A320 family aircraft, eight A330s and 22 A350 XWBs on backlog. Overall, more than 8,200 A320s are on order with over 4,900 delivered.

    Looks like US is hedging their entire fleet into Airbus planes. Wonder what they will with the 752's as they age out of service I would suspect the A321 domestically...but what about Hawaii and Europe? I would suspect 332's to replace 762's and 333's to fill in where the 332's were.
     
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    I'm pretty sure they're retiring a 737 and not adding to capacity--US is definitely not in growth mode right now!

    I also think the A321NEO may be in the cards to replace the 757s, as I believe they should have the range to reach Hawaii from PHX.

    My big curiosity concerning US's future fleet concerns the longhaul/widebodies. Currently, there are 26 widebody aircraft in the US fleet:

    10 767's
    7 A332's
    9 A333's

    There are 8 A332's on firm order, and 22 A350s...so assuming the first 10 of those to come in replace 767s which are phased out, that would leave US with a widebody fleet that looks like this:

    15 A332's
    9 A333's
    22 A350s

    That totals 46 aircraft, which is a net gain of of 20 widebody aircraft over the current fleet (a huge increase, in my opinion). Does US have big international expansion plans that we just don't know about yet?
     
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    Well...remember, they have 15 752 ETOP's with Envoy that they use for Europe flights...so if those get replaced, only a net of 5 new internationally flying planes.
     
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    Yes, but is there enough demand on those 757 routes to replace them with A332s?
     
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    Sean and everyone - the last US West 737 flew on November 29th. The only 737's now are East 737's.
     
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    Exactly...I find it hard to believe they'd go from a 757 on a thinner route such as PHL-LIS all the way up to a 332...that's a huge capacity increase. I can't recall the projected capacity of the A350 at the moment, but I know it's bigger than a 757 as well...
     
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    The A350 XB is larger than a 332 or 333...approaching more the size of the 777 family. I wonder if they will use the 752's until the 321 NEO's come out and replace some of their thin Europe flights with Envoy configured A321 NEO's...I think they will have the range to reach Western Europe from PHL. They could defiantly do PHX-Hawaii with the current A321 as opposed to the 752. Looking at the Airbus website, it looks like the current A321 could make the British Isles, Paris, Lisbon, and Madrid (if you push it).
     
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    Please please please - bring the A321 to PHX-KOA, OGG, HNL, LIH that would be a blessing!!! Time to retire to Hawaii 757's. The refurbished 757's with the Envoy seats can stay, but the US West 757's have got to go!
     
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    I think the current A321 fleet can make PHX-Hawaii...are they ETOPS rates or are only the 319's?
     
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    Are all new twin engines ETOPs rated? It seems it just makes sense, seeing as how no one is buying 4 engines anymore. Granted, I don't know a whole lot about ETOPS
     
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    If this were to happen, then that would free up even more widebodies...what are they going to do with all of these widebodies other than really expand internationally?
     
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    All/most wide-body twin engine planes are ETOPS rated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETOPS for more information) as well as most single aisle airplanes. The rating is different for every airframe and engine combination. I do not know at this time if the A321 has gotten certified. I know the A318 and A319 are...but unsure of the A320/A321.
     

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