United purchasing 30 new ERJ 175s for a Express carrier.

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    Yay?
     
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    Shocking part is 12 F seats.

    I like this.
     
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    IMO, mostly yes. Getting rid of the smaller ERJs will be good for comfort. Potentially bad for smaller markets which will see a frequency drop as a result, but better for passenger comfort overall.
     
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    Does UA own any other regional aircraft operated by the regional partners?
     
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    IIRC they bought the Q400s. Not sure what the chain of custody was/is during and post Colgan.
     
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    I wonder if they're going to replace the E120s with existing CR2s or ER4s and then use these planes to replace those in service on the routes that need the lift.
     
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    Frankly i doubt it. I bet most of these planes are used in the northeast where landing slots are a premium and CR2s are sparse.

    The economics of operating an E120 vs a CR2 or ER4 on short hops is far superior. Lets just say there's a reason that UA hasn't gotten rid of those old guys. I bet they replace them eventually with newer Q200/300s or maybe even new Q400s with more seats and similar operating costs to their smaller sisters.
     
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    Depends on how they deploy them. I'd love to see them deployed on international routes that used to have 735 service and have been E45 for the last several years such as VER and MID. That would be a huge improvement.
     
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    I love the 175 and its big brother the 190, Air Canada has a good size fleet and they are my preferred aircraft for domestic runs. No middle seat. :)
     
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    Indeed...I was on the B6 E90 last night coming home from DC and was reminded how incredibly comfortable that cabin is.
     
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    This is great news! It's also nice to see UA buying more large Embraers, which are certainly more comfortable than similarly sized large CRJs.
     
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    This tells me they will be replacing more former mainline routes. Still can't complain too much as this has obviously been a trend long in the making.

    A few thoughts, would be nice if they all had wi-fi. Wish they considered the E190s but my understanding is that they would then get into come union problems with the numbers of seats and who is flying the metal.
     
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    Shocking as the A319 has 8 F seats.
     
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    I couldn't agree more. Even the E+ on the CR700s are too tight. The only thing I do like about them is that they are incredibly quiet inside. If I don't get the upgrade, however, I'd rather suffer some noise in trade for space.

    The only E190s I've flown are on Taca and Copa. They are downright comfortable even in E. F on those planes is wonderful. Better than domestic F on full size UA jets, IMHO.

    According to the photos, it looks like the swooping lines of the 787 paint scheme are going to be fleet-wide at some point. That's an interesting decision since they just repainted so many pmUA planes without it. This could also explain why so many old pmUA RJs still have the tulip. Those are probably the first on their way out. Just a guess.
     
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    I don't see any 787-style swooping lines on this photo:

    http://www.unitedcontinentalholdings.com/index.php?section=media&page=photos#Embraer 175

    Are there others?
     
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    Knowing UA....they are going to use these to replace aging 757s on intercontinental flights.
     
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    At one point I believe Continental owned most, if not all, of the E45s flying under the ExpressJet banner. I do not know if they still do.
     
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    You probably really do not want to know that the E-jets are certified for 120 minutes ETOPS, allowing them to have four hour-long flights overwater. At least they don't have the range to completely replace the B757's and they cannot do mainland-Hawaii.

    This is the 2008 press release on the approval for the E-190, but the entire family has that approval now IIRC:
    http://www1.embraer.com.br/institucional/download/2_056-Prd-VPC-E190_ETOPS_120-I-08.pdf
    BTW, they also have category IIIa autoland, which means they can land in effectively zero visibility conditions (that requires airport, approach, and crew certification too).
    Because of those factors these planes seem to have appeal to carriers with bad weather conditions.

    Azul in Brazil is 100% E-jets and seem to have nothing but happy passengers. They are certainly my preferred domestic carrier. Jet Blue also has a lot of them, but I've never flown them. The Air Canada ones, as milchap says, are delightful.
     
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    I think the E175/E190 is a perfect plane. I really can't find any faults flying them. The space is good and they have first class cabins. Can't find any complaints at all. They beat CRJs of any type any day hands down.
     
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    They did own many if not all E145s. I'm pretty sure they were eventually (progressively) bought by XJT, and I'd be willing to bet that this was all completed by the time Always Stuck in Atlanta (ASA) acquired them.
     
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    As much as Air Canada is a thorn in my side, I have to agree that their E-Jets are very nice. Good IFE, quiet, yada yada yada
     
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    I flew on a Copa E190 yesterday. Sweet.
     

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