UA Taxes ??

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  1. edekba

    edekba Gold Member

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    Question about the Airport/Airline taxes that UA collects ...

    At first my Itinerary was ORD - BRU - BKK - SIN - HND - LAX & it came out to $105.00/person
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    September 11th Security Fee:    $2.50
    U.S. Customs User Fee:    $5.50
    U.S. Immigration User Fee:    $7.00
    U.S. APHIS User Fee:    $5.00
    Belgium Embarkation Tax:    $36.80
    Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge:    $6.40
    Singapore Aviation Levy:    $4.90
    Singapore Passenger Service Charge:    $15.90
    Japan Passenger Service Facilities Charge:    $21.00
    
    Then I changed it to LAX - ORD - BRU - VIE; CDG - BKK - SIN - HND - LAX and it came out to $209.40/person
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    September 11th Security Fee:    $5.00
    U.S. Customs User Fee:    $5.50
    U.S. Immigration User Fee:    $7.00
    U.S. APHIS User Fee:    $5.00
    Belgium Embarkation Tax:    $23.50
    France Airport Tax:    $26.50
    France Air Passenger Solidarity Tax:    $51.80
    France Passenger Service Charge:    $35.80
    Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge:    $6.40
    Singapore Aviation Levy:    $4.90
    Singapore Passenger Service Charge:    $15.90
    Japan Passenger Security Service Charge:    $1.10
    Japan Passenger Service Facilities Charge:    $21.00
    
    Then I changed it to LAX - ORD - BRU - VIE; CDG - BKK - SIN - ICN - SEA - DEN - LAX and it too was $209.40/person.
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    September 11th Security Fee:    $5.00
    U.S. Customs User Fee:    $5.50
    U.S. Immigration User Fee:    $7.00
    U.S. APHIS User Fee:    $5.00
    Belgium Embarkation Tax:    $23.50
    France Airport Tax:    $26.50
    France Air Passenger Solidarity Tax:    $51.80
    France Passenger Service Charge:    $35.80
    Singapore Passenger Security Service Charge:    $6.40
    Singapore Aviation Levy:    $4.90
    Singapore Passenger Service Charge:    $15.90
    Japan Passenger Security Service Charge:    $1.10
    Japan Passenger Service Facilities Charge:    $21.00
    
    See how the Japan stuff is still in there?

    Today I changed it to LAX - ORD - BRU - VIE; CDG - BKK - SIN - ICN - SEA - SFO - LAX and there was no change in taxes; but UA no longer lists what the $209.40/person is.

    Is something funny going on here?
     
  2. genemk2

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    Maybe try deleting cookies/new browser and see if that works?
     
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  3. Wandering Aramean
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    Sounds like the agent did an even exchange rather than repricing the award again. It happens from time to time, particularly on complicated itineraries like this. You're paying $22 to Japan in lieu of ~$10 to Korea. I wouldn't sweat it too much.
     
  4. MX

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    I once received a somewhat confused explanation on this subject from an AA agent. Foreign gov't taxes are obviously collected in foreign currencies. But the dollar conversion rate is not continuously adjusted with the market. It sometimes jumps significantly, and at intervals unknown to that agent. So perhaps this sudden disappearance of details from the UA quote may be related to an approaching currency conversion adjustment.
     
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  5. edekba

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    these were from the receipts that UA sent me... no cookies involved.
     
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    Doesn't really justify charging Japanese taxes when the flights don't touch Japan, though.
     
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  7. MX

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    True, but even if the list made more sense, we still couldn't verify the correct amount of foreign tax. From a consumer's perspective, they might as well be arbitrary amounts, just like fuel surcharges.
     
  8. Wandering Aramean
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    Sure we can. Just compare to what a revenue ticket would cost on the same itinerary. The taxes and fees should match. In this case they do, other than where the itinerary wasn't updated to price the Korea connection rather than the Japan connection. As I noted above the difference is ~$12 and, IME, comes from the agent choosing to make things easier by doing an even exchange on the award rather than jumping through the hoops of repricing. I had one recently where I paid Portugal taxes for connecting in Austria. I think that one was to my benefit while others cost a couple dollars.

    When it is more than $50 one way or the other I suggest to the agent that recalculating is a good idea but usually I just go with it. Getting the seats booked on the flights I want is more valuable to me than spending the extra time, worrying about a supervisor making up new rules or otherwise changing the trip I've worked to construct.
     
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  9. AZjohn

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    Yea, had this happen when I changed an award that originally went through LHR and then I changed it through FRA. UA still kept the UK fees and then just added more $ for the Germany fees (it was all listed similar to what the OP posted).

    Just had to call and get the old UK fees credited back, no big deal. But, wonder how many other people just don't notice this little "mistake" and just pay the extra fees that should have been credited???
     
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  10. edekba

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    Exactly. I wonder if its "common practice"
     

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