UA, AA, DL Redemption Options for US - New Zealand Travel?

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  1. Explore
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    Given how hard it is to find F, C, or even Y award seats for travel to New Zealand in the November timeframe, can someone suggest creative but legal options for a single award? Note that is period is hardly the peak travel season, instead it's a shoulder time.

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    Have you tried mixing one way awards from UA and AA?
     
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    There is no F service to NZ from the US.

    Y and j awards on routes to NZ are very tough to get. There isn't a season where awards are particularly well available.

    I suspect the easiest award to find is v Australia to SYD (using DL miles) then connecting for the trans-Tasman segment. Not sure if the akl segment can be done on points.
     
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    Thanks for the V Australia suggestion. Regarding F, I do consider it an option traveling UA (and QF?) via SYD. The Tasman connection would not be in F of course.
     
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    If you're doing *A to Australia/NZ, in addition to UA, there's a lot of service on SQ through SIN, some of which has suites on the A380. You could also do ANA FC to connect to SQ in NRT or elsewhere. Of course, this involves a trans-Tasmanian flight, where I think there are also some mideast carriers that offer FC, Emirates or Etihad, including limo service.

    With oneworld, CX probably has HKG-SYD with FC and they certainly serve several North American airports with nonstops into HKG with IFC.
     
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    With *A options going via SE Asia and then Oz is going to be the best chance of finding seats. That routing, however, generally exceeds the MPM+15% that UA enforces. The good news is that CO doesn't have the same rule so the UA miles can be moved to CO and redeemed from there.

    Doing something like LAX/SFO/ORD/IAH/SEA/EWR/JFK-(NRT/ICN/HND)-BKK-SYD-AKL/CHC should be possible and there are premium cabin options on those flights. BKK-SYD seems to generally be accessible for F award seats from my recent searches.
     
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    NZ seems to release premium cabin award seats 60 days prior to flight during high season. The seats are much more available in the Northern summer.

    V Australia esp. LAX-BNE is particularly available much of the year, even business class in Dec/Jan.
     
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    Transiting in Asia will improve award availability significantly. On OW least (and im pretty sure on dl) it counts as two awards, which is contrary with the OP's ask. Against that, this is probably the best way to pull it off. (best in terms of availability, but most expensive in terms of miles needed)

    Regrettably, CX pulled f service from this route a year or two ago. I flew in f SYD-HKG in 07...but earlier this year when I flew again, it was gone on both cx100 and 110 (the two daily services). QF is the only carrier operating f on this route.
     
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    If you are willing to connect via SYD or Mel (don't forget melbourne!), f would be an option. There is f service trans-Tasman on EK, on their fifth freedom flight.

    Against that, the QF f seats are close to impossible to get (I'd wager that there are no days in the coming 355 days that have 2 f seats avail from lax, and less than 10 days in the coming year have 1 avail from lax). Switching to EK couldn't be done as a single award either.

    Are you looking for one seat or two?
     
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    For all the difficulties with DL redemptions, we had no problem getting J from FLorida to Auckland on DL/KE. Going via Seoul was a bit roundabout but it was the right price (we got 2x low).
     
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    American won't permit transit via Asia to Australia as part of a single award except as part of a distance-based oneworld award.

    Continental will allow it. United will allow it, subject to not exceeding published maximum permitted mileage by more than 15%, Delta will allow it, Aeroplan will allow it subject to not exceeding published maximum permitted mileage by more than 5%, US AIrways will allow it (they've gotten much tougher though about routing via Europe and Asia ;) ).
     
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    Which I believe only permits a connection in ICN. SIN/BKK are definitely out.
     
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    ICN will work from some cities and not others
     
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    Creative you say? -> LAX/MIA/JFK/MEX/CUN->LIM/SCL->IPC->PPT->AKL

    You can try to use AA miles the whole way - which would require no layovers - even if it's an involuntary layover (such as layover caused by IPC-PPT not being dialy) it would be broken up into separate awards so it's important that flight times align.

    If you can't book AA as one award then you have a nice consolation prize: Use BA for YQ free flights (and unlimited stopovers) on LAN from USA->IPC/PPT & then AA for the remaining segment(s) for intra-south pacific to AKL.
    (NOTE: BA considers IPC South America while AA considers it South Pacific :D)
    (If you use BA miles to PPT, you may be able to use DL miles on Air Tahiti Nuit for PPT->AKL too)

    ..I guess if you want to be less creative you could fly LAN direct SCL->AKL..
     

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