TSA Fires 28 Employees in HNL

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  1. Jimgotkp
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    The Transportation Security Administration fired 28 of its employees -- in addition to three that resigned or retired -- following a probe that revealed bags were allowed onto planes at Hawaii's Honolulu International Airport without being properly screened, the agency said Sunday.​

    Another 15 people were suspended, the TSA reported in a statement.​

    The moves come after the agency "completed the adjudication process" it had announced in June, months after the allegations first surfaced. All those terminated or suspended "have the right to appeal the decision," according to the TSA.​

    The firing is believed to be one of, if not the biggest, such action in the agency's history, with officials previously stating that it underscores they will not tolerate employees who compromise security.​

    In March, Honolulu's KITV 4 News reported that TSA officers assigned to a morning shift regularly allowed checked bags to be loaded onto flights on nine daily departures without being screened for explosives. Sources told the TV station that such lapses occurred for as long as four months and involved thousands of checked bags. CNN confirmed the investigation.​

    TSA officers are required to screen 100% of all checked bags before they are stored in the cargo holds of passenger aircraft.​

    In June, agency officials said they did not know exactly how many bags were allowed onto flights without being inspected, but said the lapse took place during the last four months of 2010. The TSA said after it became aware of the problem, it took steps to ensure that every bag is properly screened at the airport​

    A TSA official said in June that in addition to rank-and-file screeners and some supervisors, the airport's federal security director and assistant federal security director for screening had also received letters proposing that they lose their jobs.​

    "TSA holds its workforce to the highest ethical standards, and we will not tolerate employees who in any way compromise the security of the traveling public," TSA Administrator John Pistole said then in a statement.​

    The TSA said it uses closed-circuit TV, random inspections, covert tests and peer and management oversight to check on the integrity of the system.​
     
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    Good riddance to them all and it's about bloody time as this has been sitting out there for way too long.
     
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    So, the report came in out in March. The report states that the lapses occurred for about four months, which, at best, means that this started in December 2010.

    Incidents that were reported in March, action started in June, final outcome with the firings and suspensions come in September.

    So, almost a year.

    So, it takes a little over what is the normal human gestation period for the TSA to take action against its own (and a media investigation). Considering how often the TSA keeps us scared, because of actions of terrorists that could happen at any time or any where, that 10-month period is embarrassing and shameful.
     
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    I hope the proponents of bigger government read about this.
     
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    Don't think that would make a dent in their opinion.

    The real problem is that once government takes power, it rarely lets loose of its grip. And it's highly doubtful that any politician will want to eliminate the TSA, for fear of being seen as being soft on terror.

    Not to mention, I don't think the airlines will want to assume the cost for security again.
     
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    Well, I am not sure that "lowest bidder" private security is the right answer either. I see those wanna-be cops every day at work.
     
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    How long were those screeners paid? And is firing the only result, or will they also be criminally charged?
     
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    After numerous terrorist accidents this still happens :mad:
     
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    I find it disturbing that the TSA thinks it is an "ethical organization" with "high standards of ethics". Exactly what type of behavior does TSA's management think they are cultivating when they teach their front line staff to lie to passengers and make up answers on the fly to do whatever they feel is justified in the name of safety?
     
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    Why did it take so long to fire these idiots?
     
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    Force those screeners to randomly fly on one of thos unscreened flights. Performance will improve.

    In the military, parachute packers have to periodically jump with a chute packed by of of them...... ;)
     
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    Bolding mine: Maybe that's what the SSI manual says is the time needed to make sure the TSA covers its a$$ so it doesn't get sued by the (now fired) employees? ;)
     
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    Are these guys part of a union? If so, I can completely understand why it could take so long, government red tape notwithstanding. Going through all the union rigamorole and investigations can be painful. That said, it still took way too long for something of this perceived magnitude.
     
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    This is one smaller station. I wonder how many would be fired out of Chicago, Denver, Dallas, etc. The TSA is such a joke in so many ways and it's embarrassing how many of these agents are being fired because of theft, ineptness, etc. The President is looking for cost-cutting measures right now - get rid of this agency.
     
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  15. Is anyone really surprised that these thugs weren’t doing their job? So far this year, there have been 50 screeners arrested for crimes ranging from rape and child molesting to drug trafficking and theft from baggage. In the same nine months, there have been 49 security breaches, dozens of lawsuits and thousands of groping and abuse complaints. This is not exactly a group of model citizens.
    On top of being paid to not do their job, they also get six months paid administrative leave while their case is appealed. The rest of us would have been immediately fired and standing in the unemployment line and have a bad reference on our work history. Why are these goof-offs treated like royalty?
    TSA is nothing more than a jobs program for misfits and criminals. They do nothing to assure airline safety while assaulting more Americans than Al Qaeda. It is long past time to close this corrupt agency and go to private security firms.

    TSA Crimes
    http://www.travelunderground.org/index.php?threads/master-lists-of-tsa-abuses-crimes.317/
     
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    28 fired; only 60,000 more to go. Too bad it will be such a slow process.
     
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    Forgive me for going a little off-topic, but you started it :)...

    If I'm not mistaken, in the US, if one is fired, which implies that one was let go because one is a screw-up, one would not be eligible for unemployment benefits. Conversely, if one was let go due to a reduction in force or other such restructuring, unemployment benefits would apply. Am I wrong on this?
     

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