Tools for some SkyTeam award availability

Discussion in 'SkyTeam' started by Wandering Aramean, Feb 7, 2011.  |  Print Topic

  1. Wandering Aramean
    Original Member

    Wandering Aramean Gold Member

    Messages:
    28,201
    Likes Received:
    61,716
    Status Points:
    20,020
    No, I cannot produce DL saver inventory with a snap of my fingers, but if you get into some of the other SkyTeam member carriers a decent number actually publish their award inventory in the public domain. I built a search engine that leverages that data and make it available for free.

    Head here to start. You'll need to register (sortof keeps the bots out but I promise no spam or abuse of your account details) and then you can search for awards on:
    Lots of SkyTeam partners in there for you.

    Enjoy!
     
  2. The Points Guy
    Original Member

    The Points Guy Silver Member

    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    104
    Status Points:
    270
    I love the WA Tools- very easy to use and accurate. Although convincing Delta phone reps there is actually availability can be a huge challenge.
     
    jbcarioca likes this.
  3. joesmoe
    Original Member

    joesmoe Gold Member

    Messages:
    1,521
    Likes Received:
    3,788
    Status Points:
    1,945
    Nice, thanks!
     
    jbcarioca likes this.
  4. cliburn
    Original Member

    cliburn Gold Member

    Messages:
    1,214
    Likes Received:
    2,500
    Status Points:
    1,470
    Thanks WA! I never knew this existed!
     
    jbcarioca likes this.
  5. Wandering Aramean
    Original Member

    Wandering Aramean Gold Member

    Messages:
    28,201
    Likes Received:
    61,716
    Status Points:
    20,020
    Happy to help, though clearly marketing isn't my strong suit. These tools have been around for months. :cool:
     
    jbcarioca likes this.
  6. Gnopps
    Original Member

    Gnopps Silver Member

    Messages:
    96
    Likes Received:
    84
    Status Points:
    270
    Excellent, thanks for these tools! Couldn't the award seat finder be consolidated into one? So that if I search CDG-PRG I get both AF and OK?
     
    jbcarioca and joesmoe like this.
  7. joesmoe
    Original Member

    joesmoe Gold Member

    Messages:
    1,521
    Likes Received:
    3,788
    Status Points:
    1,945
    This would be a great added feature.
     
    jbcarioca likes this.
  8. Wandering Aramean
    Original Member

    Wandering Aramean Gold Member

    Messages:
    28,201
    Likes Received:
    61,716
    Status Points:
    20,020
    In theory, yes. In reality, the searches are individual so I'd have to run multiple queries, store all the results, aggregate them and spit it back out to you. That's a lot more work for minimal increase in information. I say minimal because the carriers that the tools cover right now generally have minimal to zero overlap on routes. I am already aggregating two searches for the Y/C queries.

    AF doesn't publish the data into the GDS that I can see, for example, so I cannot search that anyways.
     
    jbcarioca likes this.
  9. dwhotz
    Original Member

    dwhotz Silver Member

    Messages:
    50
    Likes Received:
    23
    Status Points:
    160
    Seth,

    Not taking anything away from your great work, but a couple of these airlines aren't in SkyTeam (ie Aegean, Air China). Thanks for all your hard work and I'm not trying to be overly critical but am I missing why you chose to include those in the SkyTeam forum? Keep up the good work!
     
    jbcarioca and joesmoe like this.
  10. Wandering Aramean
    Original Member

    Wandering Aramean Gold Member

    Messages:
    28,201
    Likes Received:
    61,716
    Status Points:
    20,020
    Because I was too lazy to delete them from the list I copy/pasted over. I know they aren't all SkyTeam but most are, and I figured having the other couple listed didn't hurt. :)
     
  11. gleff
    Original Member

    gleff Co-founder

    Messages:
    3,616
    Likes Received:
    6,793
    Status Points:
    4,670
    Definitely appreciate Aeroflot and Czech, a nice companion to using a Flying Blue account to search AF/KL/VN/CZ/KQ/etc.
     
  12. Bob Smolinsky
    Original Member

    Bob Smolinsky Gold Member

    Messages:
    3,346
    Likes Received:
    14,569
    Status Points:
    10,575
    Still would pay to see though DL seats available to other Skyteam Airlines :)
     
    joesmoe likes this.
  13. dwhotz
    Original Member

    dwhotz Silver Member

    Messages:
    50
    Likes Received:
    23
    Status Points:
    160
    Like I said...no criticism...just curious. I definitely understand the laziness factor
     
    joesmoe likes this.
  14. bakedpatato
    Original Member

    bakedpatato Gold Member

    Messages:
    2,558
    Likes Received:
    13,734
    Status Points:
    10,425
    grumble grumble*stupid KE and their "no award availability for you unless you have nuff miles" policy*grumble grumble
     
  15. PoorMansBidet
    Original Member

    PoorMansBidet Silver Member

    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    35
    Status Points:
    130
    Nice Job on the tools. Thanks.
     
    Wandering Aramean likes this.
  16. broncob
    Original Member

    broncob Silver Member

    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    9
    Status Points:
    125
    Ncommander sent me a link to your site last week and it has been great in trying to plan an MSP-PEK trip (although I have been having more trouble with the MSP-LAX segment than the LAX-PEK segment-go figure). I agree with the points guys comment-I have yet to be able to convince DL that CZ award seats exist :(
     
  17. Wandering Aramean
    Original Member

    Wandering Aramean Gold Member

    Messages:
    28,201
    Likes Received:
    61,716
    Status Points:
    20,020
    Glad y'all are finding it useful. :cool:
     
  18. Thanks for the list of tools - I'm trying to source out a honeymoon trip using low miles availability. Bookmarked!
     
  19. travelgourmet
    Original Member

    travelgourmet Silver Member

    Messages:
    172
    Likes Received:
    202
    Status Points:
    360
    Thanks for the tools. Have managed to use this info already to book some VN tickets using SkyMiles. Much easier to do when you know what to tell them to look for. Thanks again.
     
    jbcarioca and Wandering Aramean like this.
  20. kirkpd
    Original Member

    kirkpd Silver Member

    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    38
    Status Points:
    145
    Any tools for availability on AF or Air Tahiti Nui? Delta seems to always only find one seat.
     
    jbcarioca likes this.
  21. gleff
    Original Member

    gleff Co-founder

    Messages:
    3,616
    Likes Received:
    6,793
    Status Points:
    4,670
    You can use FlightStats.com for both. AF "O" inventory is award business. "I" is business award space and "W" is economy award space on Air Tahiti Nui.
     
    jmrich1432, jbcarioca and kirkpd like this.
  22. SkyTeam777

    SkyTeam777 Active Member

    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    3
    Status Points:
    90
    This is extremely helpful, thanks!
     
    Wandering Aramean likes this.
  23. MSPeconomist
    Original Member

    MSPeconomist Gold Member

    Messages:
    58,563
    Likes Received:
    98,528
    Status Points:
    20,020
    Welcome to MP.
     
    SkyTeam777 likes this.
  24. deadlocklegend

    deadlocklegend Active Member

    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    4
    Status Points:
    75
    I have question about the Air China availability because other tools aren't showing similar availability. for example, PEK-JZH or CTU-JZH on September 10th. Neither Air China's own reward website nor ANA tool show that there's availability at all, but your tools show there are.
     
    Wandering Aramean likes this.
  25. Wandering Aramean
    Original Member

    Wandering Aramean Gold Member

    Messages:
    28,201
    Likes Received:
    61,716
    Status Points:
    20,020
    The Air China inventory I'm listing is based on the X/I/O buckets. It is possible that they are publishing something else out into the Galileo GDS for those buckets or that they've changed what fare buckets awards come out of.

    Have you tried calling an airline and booking such seats?

    If it is bad data I'll pull that piece down until I can get it fixed but it would be nice to have confirmation one way or the other.
     

Share This Page