The World's 10 Safest Airlines - 2012 version

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  1. canucklehead
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    In case you are wondering what criteria were included, here they are

    The 2012 selected criteria are:
    • Net financial result
    • Passenger Load Factor
    • Total number of employees
    • Total number of pilots/copilots
    • Total number of cabin crew employees
    • Total number of km flown
    • Overall number of aircraft in service
    • Average age aircraft in service
    • Percentage of aircraft on order
    • Homogeneous flee of Airbus or Boeing
    • Homogeneous type of aircraft
    • Number of aircraft no longer in production
    • Number of aircraft considered at risk
    • Number of accidents during the last 10 years
    • Maintenance expenses
     
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    Was surprised that JAL is dropped out!
    Thanks for sharing on MP!
     
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    I have been certain that flying on Air Canada was safe. :cool:
     
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    Do they list the 10 least safe?
     
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    ATRA checked 92 airlines but the report is pretty pricy!
     
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    Singapore Air and Emirates are not on this list....
     
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    I am also surprised, since by looking at their criteria selection, both carriers should have qualified.:confused:

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    I can't believe that no Nigerian or Russian airlines were included in that list.
     
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    and by included in that list, you mean to say be included on ANYONE's list! ;)
     
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    Qantas huh....
     
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    An interesting list. I wonder if it is possible to see the list, not in alphabetical, but in position of respective safety.
    Who is the number 1 safest operator?

    I am surprised to see Singapore absent.
     
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    Rain Man was right.
     
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    The criteria seem mildly dubious although for the most part reasonable, as do some of the claims. It feels like probably a reasonable statistical analysis with a few weak points and quirks that give it a preference for large US and Europe-based carriers.

    Mathematical multi-criteria analyses have been selected by ATRA for the following reasons:
    - management of both quantitative and qualitative variables
    - no arbitrary weighting system
    - transparency
    - meaningfulness of results
    - reproducibility and objectivity
     
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    Sarcasm?
    Out of the list, Qantas is the most obvious choice.

    1. Oldest continually operating airline still trading under same name

    2. Despite maintaining some of the longest flights, last fatality was a long, long time ago - well before a lot of these airlines were formed: 1951

    3. They have a very large, but young fleet average. Which is soon to get younger. Being one of the main A380 and 787 customers will help to remove some of the oldest aircraft in the fleet.

    Out of this very safe list, here are the last fatalities:

    Air Canada: 1983
    KLM/Air France: 2009
    AA: 2004
    Delta: 1996
    BA: 2006
    Lufthansa: 1999 (Cargo), 1993 (Passenger)
    Southwest: 2005
    United/Continental: 2009
    US Airways: 1994

    Big variance from these and Qantas:

    Qantas: 1951

    Lufthansa wasn't even formed the last time Qantas had a fatality, and Lufthansa has had 7 accidents in which fatalities have occurred since forming.

    Qantas or Lufthansa - Lufthansa is clearly not as safe by records.
     
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