The Boeing 787 flies again!!!

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    If anybody wonders why there is a suffix "E" after the type 788 on FlightAware, that is an equipment suffix as used in flight plans. "E" means a Flight Management System (FMS) with an Inertial Reference Unit (IRU) as well as conventional naviagtion receivers. Most new airliners and civil jets are "E".

    An FMS is essentially like the GPS you may have in your car. It allows programming of the entire flight plan including departures (SID), enroute, arrivals (STAR) and approaches.
    An IRS in todays versions uses laser gyroscopes to maintain an accurate position reference without needing any external navigation sources. It is initialized with precise position information prior to departure and can be updated during flight through use of external navigation sources such as GPS.
     
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    The BOE 272 flight is on climb out heading west eight minutes into the flight. You can watch it live on FlightAware.
     
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    They are now returning from the southernmost point at Newport, Oregon and are retracking their path, but flying at 511 kts after going south at about 480 kts.
     
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    If anybody wonders the H/ preceding the aircraft type means Heavy, certificated takeoff weight of 300,000 pounds or more.
     
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    Awesome news for the 787... and I love that one person replying to their own thread can make it a "trending topic", LOL!

    Hopefully we'll see commercial flights resume in the not-too-distant future.
     
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    They flew as slowly as 150 kts before speeding up again, they are now turning on the FAF to enter the STAR for PAE.
     
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    They just finished buzzing the vampires again.
     
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    They are now on the WATTR STAR.
     
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    It is indeed good news, but (not to sound like a party pooper) I won't get too excited until the FAA gives permission for the plane to carry passengers again.
     
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    I think it is a foregone conclusion now, unless a disaster happened on this flight, something most unlikely given that it is being flown just as announced.
     
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    And not just the FAA giving permission, but the retrofits being applied to all of the frames already in service.
     
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    They have landed
     
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    I see that UA has listed B787 on their schedule NRT - LAX again (November Flights)
     
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    There is Dreamliner on much earlier flights, July to NRT
     
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    Wow!
     
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    Keeping my fingers crossed. After getting bumped off a booked 788 flight last year, I've got another reservation with ANA from SEA > NRT in November...
     
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    I have TPAC flights on B787-8, booked on 01/23/13, with both E+ to BF GPUs clearing right away: LAX->PVG end of June, and NRT->LAX 2nd week of July; metal assignment never wavered and, with this successful test, it looks like I might get to 'dream'...:)
     
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    I might need to book another JL flight to celebrate. (It'll be a long time before another OneWorld carrier gets one, I think.)
     
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    Looking forward to having the opportunity to fly on a 787 but won't be making any booking until I know for sure it's approved and back in the air.
     
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    I would probably avoid the 787 for a long time. I have not seen concrete reports to indicate that Boeing knows what went wrong. Unless that is known, I am not sure I can be confident that a problem has been solved
     
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    I am schizophrenic on that point. As it stands I'd even fly a 767 rather than a 787. More to the point I'd rather fly a 767 Y than a 787 C. Time will change my views, if all goes well. I'll be looking at AD's and SDR's closely before I decide to fly in one.
     
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    On the one hand, there are plenty of cases where we happily accept solutions even though we don't know how they work (usually because we don't know exactly how the problem occurs). On the other hand, unless the actual cause is known, we can't be certain that a fix in fact addresses it. However, even if the actual cause of a specific set of incidents is known, that doesn't mean that there aren't other unknown and unsolved issues which could potentially cause their own set of incidents.
     
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    I'd take the potential risk of a 787 to be in C over Y any day :)

    I also change into PJs before take-off, and routinely fly in flip-flops. I accept the potential risk of being less protected and less able to escape a serious incident in exchange for immediate comfort.
     
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    I am not frantic to have causality, since much evidence was destroyed. Without knowing causality, my threshold for a fix becomes more rigorous. Methinks the FAA holds a similar view, as Boeing allegedly does also.

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