The 10 Countries Travelers Should Avoid in 2014!

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  1. Newscience

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    The comments below the article are way more interesting than the article itself! ;)
     
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    Thanks, cc1972! Not only is that quite true, it's also true for almost all the articles posted on Milepoint! By all means, read the comments! And who knows, you may also want to add to the string of comments with your own!
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    the article is fairly useless, certainly not many people considering Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or Algeria for their next holiday

    many countries in Africa and Latin America become very quiet after 8PM, they close down and roll up the streets. However it is mostly safe during the day and in certain areas known for night life

    I have been to all the countries on the list for business with the exception of CAR + Madagascar and have lived to tell the tale. There are many other countries not listed that are just as potentially dangerous.

    Many fascinating places in the world to see, cannot go through life scared and if you do visit dodgy destinations for business, just keep a low profile and shut up when you are in public, unlikely you will have any major issues.
     
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    Be sure to have armed escort when travelling in Nigeria...from experience.
     
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    In regards to Yemen, the author states: "The Department advises U.S. residents to postpone travel to Yemen and those U.S. residents presently residing in Yemen to leave instantly." INSTANTLY!!!
     
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    One should use common sense when travelling overseas, and especially where an extensive cultural, religious, and societal knowledge, as well as language proficiency, would help a traveler immensely. Whether someone is travelling alone, with family, children, a group, for tours or business, are all additional considerations. There is simply no lack of "dangerous places" around the world, and a comprehensive listing would likely include many inner city areas in America. Such places are likely increasing, rather than decreasing. A colleague travelled freely with only a backpack throughout Afghanistan in the 1970's, and it's highly doubtful this trip could be safely repeated at present! Yes, I've also been to some of the countries listed, and can list countries not mentioned that I've travelled to, and not recommend a return visit.

    It never hurts to do research prior to boarding an airplane to head overseas, if only for cultural familiarization. A good place to start is:
    http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings.html
    http://travel.state.gov/content/travel/english.html

    And travelers' health precautions should be paid attention to, see: http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/list

    BTW, many hundreds of thousands of travelers worldwide (including Americans) continue to travel to religious shrines in Saudi Arabia and Iraq. And very many will likely continue to do so, regardless of personal dangers faced. The US State Department advice about travel/staying in Yemen should be taken seriously. I suspect that there is similar official US government advice regarding travel to other nations.
     
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    There is also a mobile app called "Smart Traveler", from the US Dept. Of State. It has countries listed individually as well as sections for alerts and warnings.

    http://apps.usa.gov/smart-traveler.shtml
     
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    The only country on that list I have any desire to see is Mexico, and I think I'm smart enough to keep myself safe, take proper precautions, and avoid dangerous areas/situations.

    For most of the countries on that list, anyone who needs to be told not to go there is an idiot, IMO.
     
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    Georgia was fabulous just a few months ago when I was there and completely peaceful

    Colombia is a gorgeous country with tons of beautiful places, certainly all of them are not dangerous

    Algiers "The White City" has some fabulous architecture, tasty French / Arabic fusion cuisine and a massive Casbah, it is definitely no more dangerous than areas of New York or Chicago

    Yemen is certainly a mess and should be avoided but it was one of the most interesting places I have ever visited

    I love Mexico, it is a huge place, there are not problems everywhere

    Saudi Arabia is a joyless place but Jeddah is a nice city and safe, there are cities there similar to Petra (carved from stone canyons) in the North that are supposedly seldom visited by tourists and a place I will definitely visit

    not all travelers are interested in adventure and should avoid many places but whenever anyone tells me how dangerous some place is, I always ask them "when did they last visit this dangerous place?"

    lots of "armchair experts" out there
     
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    See:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_people_imprisoned_abroad

    http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/TravelBulletins/Kidnapping

    http://matadornetwork.com/bnt/10-extreme-cases-of-travelers-imprisoned-abroad/

    http://www.foreignprisoners.com/

    http://www.amazon.com/Nightmare-Abroad-Stories-Americans-Imprisoned/dp/1562790285
    From this link to a book available through Amazon:
    - most nations adhere to the Napoleonic code, which presumes the accused to be guilty until proven innocent
    - few nations grant bail between arrest and trial;
    - the State department will rarely intervene to aid an accused or convicted American for fear of upsetting relations with the host country

    BTW, the countries of Columbia, Pakistan, Yemen, and Mexico (all listed above) are also prominently featured on this list:

    http://www.eturbonews.com/35587/top-10-places-where-tourists-get-kidnapped

    Safe travels!
     
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    The document does not feel "current" and no matter where you are, one needs to take steps to stay alert and protect one self.
    In the safest of the countries, there is still crime.
    In the most violent countries ravaged by wars, people still find beauty and love, peace and calm (relative and subjective)
    What I am saying is, wherever you are (go), enjoy but be "smart" about it.
    One can always come to Milepoint for group advice prior to travel :)
     
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    Even if the State Department were willing to intervene, on a practical level there's not much they can do, save for perhaps getting you a lawyer and trying to ensure that whatever rights you may have under the legal system (if any) of whatever country you're being held by are respected. It's not like the President is going to go to war (or even threaten sanctions) over someone getting arrested. Even in a case like North Korea where US citizens are occasionally held prisoner, not much happens (at least publicly).
     
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