SQ Leases 15 More A330-300 Aircraft

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    15 more A330-300 aircraft will be leased by SQ. The delivery will be expected between 2013 and 2015. The aircraft - powered by Rolls-Royce Trent 700 engines - will be leased for a 6-year minimum with an option to extend. Currently SQ has 19 A330 in service.

    These aircraft will be for routes within Asia as well as to destinations in Australia and the Middle East.
     
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    772s out, what else will they use the A333 for?
     
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    Fleet renewal and like you said with 772s out...they need new a/c to replace these planes for Regional, Middle East and Australia.
     
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    773 is next in line, and the 744s are replaced with A380s.. I've heard of 787s coming in, and A350 in the distant future, but do they also buy more 77Ws or even thinking of getting 748s?
     
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    SIA CEO Mr Goh Choon Phong :
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    “Together with the additional A380s that we are taking delivery of this
    year, as well as Airbus A350s and Boeing 787s on order for the years
    ahead, the lease of the A330s is consistent with our longstanding policy of
    operating a young and modern fleet.”
     
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    Where's the 748Is?? That's it I'm through with you, SQ... :p :D
     
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    Is the A330s only supposed to be a stopgap before the A350 comes in?

    Ughh...I don't really like the A330s. The 777s just feels more spacious all around.
     
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    even the A345s in 1-2-1 Feels very cramped.. :(
     
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    Not surprising that it feels cramped since the A330s/A340s cabin width is ~ 20 inches lesser than the 777s.

    In fact, the A330s/A340s feature the same cabin width as the A300s that were first introduced...hmm...30 years ago (?)....yikes!

    Why don't SQ get additional newer 777s if they want to retire the old ones :(
     
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    True, but some airlines put seven seats across in business class on the 777, including the dreaded center seat. Doesn't SQ do this on some of their regional aircraft? AFAIK the A330s are all 2-2-2 in C/J.
     
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    Some of the 777-200's will probably go to their new low-cost carrier. Rumour says they will be reconverted to the 777-200ER, which is what they were originally. The change costs, but it is just a thrust increase. If the load is not needed the -200 is cheaper to operate than is the -200ER. The A330's are certainly stopgap since 787 and A350-900 are both delayed. A350-900 was just delayed another year last week when Airbus decided to go for more power as the leasing companies wanted, but that required major engine development, hence the delay.
     
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    EK puts seven across on their A332s and A343s and many years ago I was on a KL A310 which has 2-3-2 configuration in J.

    I concede the 2-2-2 in J on the A330 is better than 2-3-2 on the 777, but overall I still prefer a 777 to a A330 in Y or J anyday.
     
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    Wow, I still remember my shock when I flew a brand new CX 777 that was 2-3-2.
     
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    I do remember those. Luckily I was in F when I saw them. I hate center seats, doesn't everyone? Making center seats in C seems such an insult!
     
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    Right, except that I prefer them if I'd otherwise end up in coach due to the lack of inventory for awards and upgrades. Or maybe I should put it this way: once I have my upgrade or award C seat, I am going to be outraged by the middle seat :p
     
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    Which 777 are you referring to?
    For me, the new regional C seats on A330 are still preferable than any old C-seat. Of course if I can get the C type like on 77W or A345 or A380, that would be lovely. The new C on A330 is still better than SpaceBeds IMHO. :)
     
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    The A330 in C with the 2-2-2 layout is of course better than 2-3-2 on regional 777s.

    But when in Y, give me an old 777 with the old Y seat over a brand new A330 any day. The cabin just feels more spacious and roomier on the 777, plus the old seat has more legroom :)
     
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    SIA Firms Up A330 Agreement


    15 September 2011 - Singapore Airlines has firmed up an agreement with Airbus to lease another 15 A330-300 aircraft.

    Originally announced in June, the final agreement was signed by SIA CEO Goh Choon Phong during a visit this week to Airbus’ headquarters in Toulouse, France.

    The aircraft will be delivered new from Airbus’ production line between 2013 and 2015 and will be operated on routes within Asia as well as to points in Australia and the Middle East. Powered by Rolls-Royce Trent 700 engines, they will join 19 A330-300s already in service.
     
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    Cramped in the A340-500? I am not small, and i just arrived in NYC eight hours ago from SIN. I find the A340-500 very spacious and generous, especially in comaprison with other long-haul busines-class product. The seats are huge, excellent legroom, both as good as many FC. Of course there is less room than there is in a suite. That has nothing to do with the Airbus.

    Seriously, cramped? I cannot imagine how that is conceivable with only 100 seats in the entire aircraft. Please explain what you mean. Surely you're comparing with long-haul F or suites?
     
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    Ok I have to clarify.. What I meant was that the general aircraft fuselage of the 330/340 is smaller in width than that of a 777..

    The seat itself is fine, but the general feeling of the aircraft being cramped with the 100 J seat it carries well.. In a 777, its very nice and wide, but 330/340 does not carry the same body width, hence smaller aisles, and "that" feeling..
     
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    True, IIRC the cabin width of A345 is ~ 20" lesser than the cabin width of a 777. With the same 2-2-2 config in J, it will surely be more cramped in a A345 compared to a 777.
     
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    However SQ's 5 A340's all have 1-2-1 seating and 100 seats total. That is a lot of room and wide aisles. I have not experienced any 777 with the equal sense of spaciousness of the SQ A340-500.
     
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    Oops, my bad! I meant the 77W J also had the same config as the A345's which is 1-2-1.

    The seat design on the 77W is somewhat different to reflect the wider cabin width:
    - Extra space between TV screen and wall to provide for a shelf on the 77W
    - Armrest on the side near the wall is positioned diagonally towards the wall on the 77W whereas it is straight on the A345
    - Headset hook is located between the seat and the wall on the 77W
    - A cubby hole beside the armrest between the seat and the wall on the 77W

    IIRC the seat on the A345 is similar to the one in the A380 but without the side bins.

    Don't get me wrong, I like the A345 cabin and think that it is very comfortable and nice, but overall still prefer the spaciousness of the 77W. :)
     
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    the UD of the 747 is much narrower than the lower deck and yet I prefer it.

    #extremefirstworldproblem :)
     
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