[speculation] AA to get the A350 or A380, or a refurb of Premium Cabins on other aircraft?

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  1. Max M

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    Today on AA's Facebook page, they have a pic of one of their Premium cabins with the phrase:

    "We’re winging our way to the Aircraft Interiors Expo in Hamburg, Germany with plans for a big reveal.
    Any guesses? Stay tuned."



    Some have speculated that AA will be ordering some A350's or A380's because of being in Hamburg, while others have commented that AA will be upgrading some of their other Premium Cabins on other aircraft.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. ballardFlyer

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    New Envoy seat covers on ERJs ;)
     
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  4. davef139

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    Yeah the 772's getting an update seems the most logical.
     
  5. Pizzaman
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    I just have no idea what route AA would fly the A380 on that would make financial sense. I'm sure they could exist, I just can't think of one.

    And, of course, now that I've said that, @Wandering Aramean should be along with a full list momentarily. ;)
     
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    Oh, and remember we're talking about Doug. He's more likely to announce a fee to reserve a seat cushion on an ERJ.
     
  7. Max M

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    Yikes. And you know that would count as your personal item too :)

    Funny but hopefully never realized.
     
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    Yes that will be great - some good nights rest in j will be a treat.
     
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    I'm rather surprised that they're using an industry-focused event rather than a customer-focused one for such a "reveal." ITB would have been a better place to make the announcement.

    Hopefully I'll have a chance to try the new seats out this week when they finally do unveil them.

    Nah...this conference is held in Hamburg every year. And while Airbus tries to make a big splash as part of it they're not the main attraction.

    Also, no way AA orders the A380. It doesn't work for the US-carrier multi-hub model.
     
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    Maybe that's how you do it. You invoke the "Seth is going to contradict me" gods and the mojo goes the other way.
     
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    The only way any US airline could justify the A380 would be if they really wanted to get a large number of passengers from one slot controlled airport to another, ie JFK/LHR/NRT. And even then, they could probably do it with a smaller plane if they wanted to. Or maybe Airbus would "make them an offer they can't refuse," but the A380 has been reasonably successful, unlike the 747-8, so they probably don't need to do that.

    I could see an A350 order, though.
     
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    More have certainly been sold and delivered, but I'm not so sure the A380 product line will be remembered by history as a smashing success, at least financially.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/14/us-eads-results-idUSBRE9AD07Z20131114
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...ine-customers-for-delivery-slots-in-2015.html
    http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/avd_05_15_2013_p01-01-578735.xml

    Also remember that the 748 is selling many more in freighter configs than passenger, though still not a ton.
     
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    The thing is with the multi-hub model for US network carriers, it's much more useful to fly from multiple hubs to a slot-controlled airport if you can get more than one slot (and typically you can); it gives the slot-controlled airport multiple destinations as well as multiple entry points into your network for connections (and possibly better timed flights).

    A380s work for carriers with superhubs (LHR/FRA/CDG/SIN/ICN/CAN/DXB) because they can funnel ALL the traffic to that superhub from both ends of the connection. American carriers can't do that as efficiently (and the USA sucks as a connecting point, thanks to our airports and C&I peculiarities that make this not nearly as seamless as other countries, which is another strike against USA airports being superhubs).
     
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    Well, I did say reasonably, not smashing. :)
     
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    A350 with AA would be nice. But they have B787 on order already, don't they?
     
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    Not comparable. The 787 AA has on order are much smaller aircraft than the A350. The A350 is more of a 777 competitor
     
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    But there was an article on A350 that said this: "Executives said on Monday the first A350, Airbus's widebody rival to Boeing's (BA) 787 Dreamliner, was still on track to be delivered to launch customer Qatar Airways at the end of this year, with certification in the autumn."
     
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    That article was a bit confused. The A350 is a competitor to the 777 far more than the 787.

    The A350 will be 315-369 seats in a 3-cabin config (-900 or -1000). The 787-9 is only at 280 in 3-cabin. The A350-800 was something akin to the 787-9 but almost certainly will never be built; the orders are converting to -900s.

    The A330 is closer in capacity to the 787 which makes sense since the 787 is a 767 replacement.
     
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    I don't believe so. I think they're focusing on frequency with the JV. Putting an A380 on the route specifically means less frequent flights dumping into the respective hubs of both airlines.
     
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    For BA on DFW-LHR, 2X 744/777 is much more likely than an A380.
     
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    One hour ago, AA announced on their Facebook page that the A350 XWB will be joining their fleet in 2017.
     
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