SOC taking place Sunday 11/27

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  1. HeathrowGuy
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    Today is the last day for the Continental callsign, it's all United effective Sunday at 6AM Eastern Time.
     
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    Really? Do they not need to merge unions first? Exciting news, will they be able to put CO/UA FAs and pilots on either CO or UA aircraft too?
     
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    Interesting. Some other reports have it on 30 November.
     
  4. Flyer1976
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    Nope...they won't be able to cross-fleet or cross-utilize until they have one contract for both work groups...

    That date is for the Employee Website Integration... I doubt it's actually for the SOC...
     
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    Forgive my ignorance, but what will this mean operationally for UA/CO
     
  6. Flyer1976
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    That all flights will be operated on the United Operating Certificate, the Voice Callsign will be "United" and all flights will be UAL(XXXX) in the system... gone will be the "Continental" Callsign and the COA ICAO Identifier as well as the IATA CO identifier.

    Eventually....
     
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    Damn...looks like what I thought was going to be one of my last "CO Days" will be my first UA day.
     
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    I guess this is how Captain Kirk felt when they decommissioned the Enterprise...
     
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    Obviously a big milestone for the merged airline's management although not that meaningful for UACO passengers. The bigger milestone will be the combined reservation and FF systems.
     
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    I would love to be on the new CO 767-400 with Channel 9 crossing over that 6AM eastern mark and listening to the call sign change.

    Would they be able to cross fleet the 757-200s? They will all be UA planes now. There should be existing payscales and work rules for this plane on both sides. The 757-300 and the 767s are a bit tricky as both sides have different types.
     
  11. HeathrowGuy
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    No need to merge unions in connection with SOC. No cross-crewing of aircraft until the crews are trained on each other's birds, which will begin sometime next year.
     
  12. HeathrowGuy
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    They will be able to cross-utilize once training gets underway, but will not be able to operate mixed UACO crews until common contracts are ratified.
     
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    Do we know if new UA is keeping 016 ticket number or 005 ticket number
     
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    Does this mean all the airport displays call all flights UA now too? What about the GDS/res systems?

    It seems like it could be awfully confusing if they are still running two computer systems with different check-in, different upgrade rules, different OLCI rules. Will we be able to tell if we are booking a UA or a CO flight? Particularly aon routes where both operate?
     
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    Unknown at this point, but likely to keep 016 plate out of convenience.
     
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    Doubt it since it's on SHARES but who knows...
     
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    I bet the 005 ticket number stays. I don't envy the CIO who is in charge. Didn't the last one just quit? LOL
     
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    It would probably go something like this :

    767 : Houston Center, Continental 23 HEAVY, um

    Houston Center : Come again Continental 23?

    (Insert Cockpit Chatter)

    767 : Houston Center, United 23 HEAVY
     
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    There will be no change from the passengers point of reference.
     
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    Got word from a very reputable source that this will happen on 11/30 not today...
    Will be yet again another sad end to an US Legacy carriers past -
    "On the last day of November, Continental Flight 86 will arrive in Newark from Shanghai. When the crew accepts their clearance to the gate, it will mark the last time we utter “Continental” on our radios. While we will experience mixed emotions with the retirement of our proud call sign, our brand and our heritage lives on. The Air Carrier Certificate employed by legacy United Airlines (UALA011A) will cease to operate at 0600 Central time (1200Z) on 11/30/11. All legacy Continental and legacy United flights will operate using the certificate currently employed by Continental (CALA014A)"
     
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    Got some clarification from source. Apparently, SOC will be achieved on Sunday, but United procedures kick in on Tuesday as widely rumored.

    Sorry for confusion.
     
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    My sources are higher up on the totem pole than yours :p
     
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    Does this mean that some FAA paper-pusher is actually working on Sunday?
     
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    Well, this is exciting...I'm on a Tuesday night redeye. We'll depart as Continental and arrive as United. :cool:
     

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