Singapore-bound AirAsia flight loses contact with Surabaya ATC (162 passengers onboard)

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  1. WilliamQ

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    http://a.msn.com/r/2/BBhhvjF?a=1&m=en-sg

    AirAsia Flight QZ8501 with 155 passengers to Singapore has lost contact after departing from Surabaya, say Indonesian authorities.The Airbus A320 jet left Surabaya at 5.20am Indonesian time (6.20am Malaysian time) and appeared to have lost contact...
     
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    Indonesian media say 162 people were on board.

    The aircraft, flight number QZ8501, lost contact with air traffic control just after 07:00am local time, AirAsia tweeted.
    The company said that search and rescue operations were under way for the missing plane.

    http://m.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30614627
     
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    Omg....:(
     
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    "An official with the transport ministry, Hadi Mustofa, told local media the plane lost contact over the Java Sea, between the islands of Kalimantan and Java.

    He said the plane had asked for an unusual route before it lost contact and that the weather had been cloudy."
     
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    Oh no !
     
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  6. WilliamQ

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    This is a terrible year for Malaysia and its airlines...
     
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    It's been 7 hours since take off correct?

    An A320-200's range depending on the load up and wind heading would mean there would be no way they're still flying right now....:(
     
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    Hope it turns out ok.
     
  9. MSPeconomist
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    Indonesia is not Malaysia. AirAsia Indonesia is an Indonesian airline that is a partially owned subsidiary of the parent company AirAsia (which is based in Malaysia).
     
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    Search for AirAsia plane as it vanishes from radar with 162 on board

    An AirAsia flight with 162 people on board lost contact with air traffic control on Sunday after the pilots asked to change course to avoid bad weather during a flight from the Indonesian city of Surabaya to Singapore, Indonesian officials said.

    Indonesia AirAsia Flight QZ 8501, an Airbus 320-200, lost contact with the Jakarta air traffic control tower at 6:17 a.m. (2317 GMT), officials said.

    "The aircraft was on the submitted flight plan route and was requesting deviation due to enroute weather before communication with the aircraft was lost while it was still under the control of the Indonesian air traffic control," the airline said in a statement.

    No distress signal had been sent, said Joko Muryo Atmodjo, air transportation director at the Indonesian Transport Ministry.

    A search and rescue operation had been launched, the airline and the Indonesian air force said. Singapore said it had activated its air force and navy to help.

    Indonesia AirAsia is 49pc owned by Malaysian-based AirAsia.

    The aircraft was between the Indonesian port of Tanjung Pandan and the town of Pontianak, in West Kalimantan on Borneo island, when it went missing, Atmodjo told a news conference.

    http://www.independent.ie/world-new...es-from-radar-with-162-on-board-30865942.html
     
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    You are right that AirAsia Indonesia is not Malaysia based and I guess I could have been clearer in the wording of my sympathies.
    I was actually trying to sympathise that Malaysia, which is country where AirAsia Berhad is based and which in turns owns 48.9% of AirAsia Indonesia through AirAsia Investment (100% owned).

    While not 100% or even majority owned, AirAsia (Thai, Indoesia, Philipphines, Hong Kong, etc) has generally been branded as a Malaysia product and my sympathy was to the Malaysia branded airlines...

    http://www.airasia.com/my/en/about-us/ir-organizational-structure.page


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    The thing I felt most strongly against is actually the way the reporters trust their mikes and cameras toward the passengers' families in the hope of getting some news...

    I like a story update like any other fellow (and I am especially interested in this being from Asia) but I thought the story can be reported from a distance when it comes to the families involved. The corporate representatives and even government officials are fair play but in times like these, the cameras are not helping the families.
     
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    Wow.

    I could see a "native tongue" question coming....but not this.
     
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    On Monday, the head of Indonesia's National Search and Rescue Agency, Henry Bambang Sulistyo, said that plane is most likely 'at the bottom of the sea'.

    ...

    Missing AirAsia flight QZ8501 was flying 'about 160 km/h too slow' when it encountered bad weather conditions, according to aviation experts.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...501-carrying-162-people-set-resume-light.html

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    could have been said a little more tactfully (for the families)

    Doesn't this say more about the (lack of) intelligence of the news person than anything else?
     
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    Anguished relatives wait in hope amid search for plane

    A flight with 162 people on board was feared to have crashed into the sea yesterday - the second jet belonging to a Malaysian airline to go missing this year.

    Last night, an international search for the AirAsia flight was under way with growing questions over what sparked its sudden disappearance during a storm which did not affect other flights in the area.

    As relatives gathered fearing the worst, the disappearance brought back memories of the two major disasters that hit Malaysia Airlines this year after Flight MH370 vanished en route to Kuala Lumpur and a second flight came down over Ukraine.

    In Surubaya, Indonesia's second-largest city, families of those on Flight QZ8501 spent last night in limbo as the search was hampered by the thunder storms lashing the Java Sea.

    http://www.independent.ie/world-new...t-in-hope-amid-search-for-plane-30867368.html
     
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    Objects spotted in the sea during hunt for AirAsia flight QZ8501

    Search planes involved in the hunt for the missing AirAsia flight QZ8501 have spotted objects in the sea.

    Officials involved in the search said an Australian plane had spotted the objects, which are in an area of interest and will be examined further.

    The missing jet was carrying 162 people and disappeared more than 24 hours ago whilst travelling from Indonesia to Singapore

    The search for the aircraft was expanded today with planes and ships from several countries taking part.

    The Foreign Office has confirmed that a British national was on board the plane.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...g-hunt-for-airasia-flight-qz8501-9947670.html
     
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    AirAsia QZ8501 likely to be in sea, says Indonesian rescue chief

    An Indonesian official said that missing AirAsia flight QZ8501 was likely to be “at the bottom of the sea” on Monday morning, as hopes that an elaborate international search and rescue effort would find survivors began to fade.

    The jet vanished from radar screens on Sunday morning with 162 people on board, as it approached violent weather over the Java Sea about 40 minutes into a two-hour flight between the Indonesian city of Surabaya and Singapore. The plane, an Airbus A320-200 operated by an Indonesian subsidiary of the Malaysian budget airline AirAsia, reportedly requested to deviate from its flight path to avoid a cloud. Moments later, it lost contact with Jakarta air traffic controllers. It did not send a distress signal.

    “Based on the co-ordinates given to us and evaluation that the estimated crash position is in the sea, the hypothesis is the plane is at the bottom of the sea,” Bambang Soelistyo, Indonesia’s National Search and Rescue Agency chief told reporters on Monday. “That’s the preliminary suspicion and it can develop based on the evaluation of the result of our search.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...8501-plane-likely-sea-indonesian-rescue-chief
     
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    Missing AirAsia flight QZ8501 live updates: 'Insufficient evidence' objects spotted in the sea are from missing plane, say officials

    There is "insufficient evidence" objects spotted in the sea by Australian planes searching for the missing AirAsia flight QZ8501 are linked to the aircraft, officials have reportedly said. According to AFP, the Indonesian vice president, Jusuf Kalla, said the area had been checked and search teams were unable to confirm what was reported. Other latest developments are:


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    Fox News presenter mocked after appearing to link disappearance of Flight QZ8501 with pilots' use of the metric system

    A Fox News presenter who commented that the missing AirAsia flight QZ8501 may have disappeared because the pilots used metric, rather than imperial, measurement systems has been lambasted online.

    Footage appears to show presenter Anna Kooiman link the use of different measurement systems to the safety of flights abroad.

    AirAsia Flight QZ8501 disappeared en route from Indonesia to Singapore on Sunday. Rescue teams, including warships, planes and search boats, have been scrambled in an attempt to locate the missing flight and all 162 passengers on board.

    Speaking to Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) spokesperson Scott Brenner, Kooiman says: "It’s kilometres or miles. You know, everything about their training could be similar, but different."

    She continues: “So it’s not just differences in the way that we measure things, it is a difference in the way that our pilots are actually trained, is it not as safe in that part of the world?


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  23. Dublin_rfk

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    Not to comment on this particular incident. But there is at least one case of imperial / metric measurements causing an airborne incident. AC had an aircraft run out of fuel.( AC143 – July 1983)
     
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    Also caused the loss of a Mars probe: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter#Cause_of_failure

    Time for the US to join the rest of the civilized world and adopt the metric system!

    (but the Fox speculation nevertheless is ...)
     
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    The rest of the world, yes. I hold on the "civilized" - on both ends.
     
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