Singapore Airlines' remaining A380s to have 409 seats

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    Singapore Airlines is to reduce the seating density on its remaining Airbus A380s by 13%, slashing the economy-class cabin in favour of more business-class accommodation.
    The airline is to fit just 409 seats in the eight outstanding A380s which it has on order.
    Singapore Airlines' in-service fleet of 11 A380s are configured with 471 seats. These comprise 12 first-class and 60 business-class seats.

    http://www.flightglobal.com/article...rlines-remaining-a380s-to-have-409-seats.html
    FlightGlobal is quoting Air Transport Intelligence News.

    This will still leave SQ with slightly higher density than the new KE aircraft but only by a couple of seats.
     
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    :( shame. I really like the upper deck Economy cabin. Never sit anywhere else when flying on the A380.
     
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    Personally I prefer a suite if I can get it, otherwise business, so I am happy about this change.
     
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    I would love to try a Suite too, but it's out of reach for me. I've been on an SQ A380 10 times, 6 of those have been in Business, the other 4 times in Economy, where I always sat on the upper deck. So I haven't even set foot on a A380 main deck yet.

    It was good to know that if I had to be stuck in Economy I could have a seat on the upper deck, where it's quieter, there are less people, and the service is faster.

    I hope the change is route-specific and they'll keep the A380 with upper-deck Economy seating on the routes I'm usually flying.
     
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    It will be a long time before they retrofit all the fleet, I suspect, so you'll probably have the current configuration for some time to come.
     
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    I am just hoping it'll take them a long time to get their a/c delivered so then they'll stay away from SQ25/26 until I can fly with them one last time next year..

    IMO, I think old F is still superior than new F.. But might change my mind when trying R..

    As of this time, I often wondered why SQ doesn't put R up top instead of down below.. :rolleyes:
     
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    All the airlines that currently have A380, IIRC, have FC on the lower deck. I do not know why.
     
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    I thought LH and EK both have F on the top deck?
     
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    The wiki proves you correct. My bad. My earlier AFAIK is because I have been on Qantas, Air France and Singapore. They happen to be the three so far that put F on the lower deck. So much for my assumptions. I should do research before I speak!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_configurations_of_the_Airbus_A380
     
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    :p Well, that is fine. Is there a differential between having it on the upper deck or the lower deck anyways?
     
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    I have only been on the lower deck ones. I cannot image any material difference. Some suggest the UD may be quieter, but the lower deck is very quiet too. In C upper vs lower I cannot tell the difference, and F is all the way to the front so it must be even quieter. Otherwise what would it be?
     
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  12. Nope..

    EK's is on the upper deck.

     
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    See post #9 above. I already found out that AFAIK needed to do research. Both of you caught me:oops:
     
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    Hmm.. Perhaps the lower cabin is more spacious than the upper cabin? Or is it of the same width?
     
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    EK's philosophy is nothing to do with that. Rather, EK puts all its A380 premium passengers on the upper deck, just as all premium passengers are on the upper floor of the terminal at DXB. All A380 economy passengers are on the main deck, reflecting the fact that they are all on the lower floor of the DXB terminal. The idea is that A380 premium passengers should be able to board, disembark and transfer at DXB without ever having to encounter the great unwashed downstairs. (And, unfortunately, that is too often literally true in EK's case.)
     
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    That is so logical, but I did not think of that. Many years ago PIA did things to similar effect, although there was not double deck boarding for them.
     
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    Are we talking about mostly Arabians or what? :rolleyes: :p
     
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    No, as it happens, not really.

    Those who know EK and Dubai well will probably have a pretty good idea. My sister, who lives there, will (if pushed) fly economy on BA and CX - but not on EK.
     
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    I've never flown there anyways, so I may not have the proper sense of what is going on.

    Hmm.. I guess its the same thing why a lot of people doesn't really like to fly SQ to IAH..
     
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    Much of the Y load is workers in the Emirates from the Indian subcontinent and other regional travelers. Many of them are very poor and do not have the same sense of sanitary standards that most milepointers might prefer. That was tthe point of my PIA comment earlier in the thread. EK Y has the same character that other regional airlines have in Y, but on long-haul EK those passengers have not been in evidence IME, just on regional flights. Every carrier, including SQ, has that issue within the region.
     
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    Thank you for the explanation. That was most enlightening. :)
     
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    The lower deck is about 2 feet wider than the upper deck.
     
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    Now I don't understand the comment about the SQ IAH flight. It stops in Russia, so what's the population of workers that it serves?
     
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    Only oil/petroleum people, I suspect. From my earlier comment "...but on long-haul EK those passengers have not been in evidence IME, just on regional flights. Every carrier, including SQ, has that issue within the region." I have not seen that issue on any long-haul flights, personally, nor have I heard of it being such an issue. of course i would not care to by in long-haul Y under any circumstances if I had a choice. General_Flyer may have other explanations.
     
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    It was an explanation given by my TA a while ago.. Russian tourists in Y in a sense. Indonesians once they flew this route generally avoided it afterwards because apparently, these Russians are a rowdy bunch and didn't seem to bother with showers either.. :rolleyes:

    That is good to know, thanks! :)
     
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