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Discussion in 'General Discussion | Travel' started by uggboy, Aug 7, 2012.
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|| Should children be banned from red-eye flights? ||
What do MP'ers think?
Ill go a step further and say that I think that children should be kept out of First/Business. If their little feet doent even touch the ground, I dont see the need for them to be in F/B. Usually they are travling with family and Im sure you F/B travelers dont want a screaming kid in the pod next to you...Thoughts?
Do really all children scream, at all times?
Ok, not at all times, but my body starts screming when i cant fully recline on a long flight, and it really does erk me when i see little kids in F/B. I used to travel a lot, and most times it was economy (I wasnt into the points game back then so i was actually paying for my flights)...Thats my two cents, i know Ill get hounded for it, but lets debate it.
I voted "No" and I think I'll stay out of the ensuing debate
Here's the reason for my vote.
Children often scream for a good reason during ascents and descents. Their ears are not fully developed, and they can not equalize air pressure between the middle ear and cabin. That's painful or at least uncomfortable.
I think there might be circumstances that require a young child to travel by air. In those cases their parents (or guardians) should be entirely responsible for their care and comfort. It would be totally unfair to subject the rest of the passengers to somebody else's childraising duties. Perhaps it would be a good compromise to restrict kids and their parents/guardians to a portion of the plane that's already noisy (e.g. the rear), and maybe install an extra sound barrier.
What's in it for the airlines? How about more smaller child seats that could replace the standard sized.
Great vote! Observe? [ Haven't we not all been kids in earlier times? ]
I'm most likely to fly in the future, as we have done before always in economy, have not had ever too many problems with screaming children, nor had I problems to fly economy on red eye flights with some children surrounding us / even long haul. We enjoy flying, children or not, on many flights in which we had a look to business class for example, there were sometimes a lot of empty seats.
I think children should be chained to a pipe in the basement, surrounded by guard dogs & armed sentries, until the age of 18. (I'm only half kidding here)
Very interesting indeed.
For some it sounds like innovation, for others it sounds like common sense.
I guess you haven't kids or when you have some, you don't want them to fly!
Overall, I'm definitively pro flying for kids from an early age, as I'm believe it makes them a better " world citizens ".......BTW. I don't have kids!
I find it's often the parenting (or lack thereof) that plays a role here, regardless of class of service. Of course, there are adults I've seen who I'd rather not be around on the same plane!
Good responsible parenting is the key IMHO.
This takes in a big spectrum of situations ie. from flying, restaurants, cinemas to shopping malls!
At least, a more possible option is, to ban children from the first row behind the exit row! You know that only important people sit there and so they must not be disturbed/kicked/banged on.
A year ago I would have been voting, "YES!," ban them from the plane.
Then I became a father and realized that taking my family around the world will likely be the best way to educate them. Sometimes that will involve a red-eye.
If you don't get much sleep on one red-eye, consider how little sleep I have gotten the last 10 months.
The Jett Rink Instant Knee-Jerk Reaction™ : NO
I recently opted to pay an extra $400 or so per ticket in order to *not* fly as a solo parent with a 10-year old RT red-eyes SJO-DEN
I understand this argument, but you did (I assume) choose to have a child.
That said, no, I don't think banning them is the correct choice. Possibly providing them with strong sedatives would be an option however.
I'd have to say "no" to this one since I flew constantly as a kid including red-eyes (parental custody reasons most the time). I've never had much of an issue with kids on airplanes though aside from take off and landing, but I have some nice sound-canceling headphones that seem to offset that. A couple flights ago I got sat across the isle from an unaccompanied minor (pretty young) and ended up teaching him how to play poker because he seemed bored
What I would be willing to debate on is little yappy dogs. I always seem to be around one. Don't they actually have sedatives for dogs to use though?
Yeah, let's go back to the days of The Chicago Executive!
Seriously though, if I start compiling a list of people and things that interfere with my sleep on the plane, it'll get pretty long pretty quickly. And since it's unreasonable to expect all of those things to get banned, I find the entire debate about disallowing children in F, C, red-eye, anywhere other than the last row, etc. pointless. And mean.
We flew with a lab puppy years ago and the vet gave us some drugs to knock the little guy out. He was a Christmas gift for my brother-in-law. Dog was dead asleep until some of the FA's saw him on my wife's lap and wanted to play with him.
He did whine a little bit during the descent but, since this was a mid-day flight, no one seemed to mind much.
Guess I didn't have to post it since someone else beat me to it.
I have NO intention of EVER contributing to the global infection of demon spawn.