Scanners for Your Shoes?

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  1. doc
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    sigh, another delay in getting through security?
    1. photo id with boarding pass
    2. wait while the people in front of you have their bags rescanned due to the liquids/laptops/unknown blob techs are not familiar with seeing on their screen
    3. wait while the person in front of you remembers their keys
    4. wait while they then recall their phone
    5. wait while they decide to take off the belt too
    6. wait for the backlogs to clear before going thru either of the body scanners
    6.a wait for the technician to relay things are fine if you had to go through the back scatter
    7. now, wait also for the foot image to clear??

    does not sound like an improvement to me.
     
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    Could not agree with you more! :)
     
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    Agreed, too many delays in this process already.
     
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    Do you mean to tell me that the above takes longer than walking through a metal scanner?
    I mean like wow! The goverment keeps telling me that they are improving everything!
    How can things take longer, cost more and not work?
     
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    This is ridiculous... How much money is the TSA going to spend on this on top of the full body scanners?
     
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    I really need to get into the security contracting business. I think I'll buy a bunch of those playskool checkpoints and tell them it's a new minicheckpoint and combine it with a shrink ray. Until finding the shrink ray you cannot see the checkpoint clearly enough to ascertain the actual security procedures.
    I'll sell them this for the steal of $350,000 for the shrink ray and $500,000 for the playskool check point.
     
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    I remember seeing some sort of prototype shoe scanner being used in SEA around 7-8 years ago. It was a wooden box that looked like a failed junior high shop project.
     
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    what a joke
    people were forced to take their shoes off long before the shoe bomber incident, it doesn't make anything any safer, it's just messing with people.
    Just pass the law to force people to fly naked already
     
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    None of the tools in use or being tested is capable of detecting all explosives and incendiaries, but all these tools certainly do help line the pockets of some people at the expense of a lot more people.
     
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    I don't think that is correct.
     
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    Well, there was no "requirement" except when there was. As a screener at SDF put it, long before the shoe bomber: "well, you don't have to take them off here, but if you don't you WILL get a secondary and you WILL have to take them off then". That was the case for both very thin loafers as well as ladies sandals.

    Same policy applied at CVG, LEX, and (depending on the screener) BWI.
     
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    And at SEA it was the same procedure for rubber flip-flops and even for someone who put a paper towel under each bare foot and slid the feet across the floor. "Footwear removal is optional, but if you don't remove it, you WILL get a secondary and you will have to remove all footwear then".
     
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    If the shoes had metal shanks in them, then yes, people had to remove them.

    But everyone? That was not the case.
     
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    I didn't really say everyone had to either, albeit it was a poorly formulated offhand comment, and I can see why the nit-pickers would react. Lets just remove it so that everyone can calm down:
    I was referring to the shoe-scanners. According to TSA, their purpose is to make the checkpoints run more smoothly. But how long does it really take the average shoe-wearer to slip out of his/her shoes and pass them through the scanner? I'd say around 5 seconds. And what, the full body scanner can find bombs in your shorts but cannot be made to check your shoes as well? Spending millions of taxpayers money to implement yet another machine to queue for(!), in order to speed-up(?) the security-check process, that's just messing with people.
     
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    If you're talking about shoe-round-trip (taking off *and* putting them back on), it depends which shoes I'm wearing. It can actually be 5 minutes, not 10 seconds.
     
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    Then banning complicated shoes would be just as dumb, but cheaper! :D
    seriously though, this is not a big issue.. prepare before you get to the front, step to the side and put em on when you're through. For the majority of travelers I would think it's not an issue at all, but admittedly I don't have solid empirical statistical shoe-data at hand here :p just my own observations, so feel free to tell me otherwise.
    I just think these things are folly and will do more harm than good, but I hope I'm wrong as they will more likely than not be a part of the US traveler's everyday, though hopefully not the rest of the world anytime soon..
     
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    When I was a little girl, they used to have this machine in the shoe department at Bullock's Westwood. My sister and I loved to stare at all the bones in our feet!
     
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    Well.. we are now revealing ourselves to be somewhat older, more experience travellers! ;)

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/04/25/video-airport-scanners-rescue-shoppers-from-fitting-rooms/

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    ATTENTION: All MP readers/contributors who may also be shoe scanner designers:

    Please note "The current push to acquire the devices kicks off on April 25, when would-be designers will have the chance to submit proposals for the scanners."

    And, FWIW..

    "The installation of the scanner for shoes simplifies security checks at Ibiza airport"

    http://www.avionews.com/index.php?corpo=see_news_home.php&news_id=1128431&pagina_chiamante=index.php

    So, it seems that the move is on! :(
    Come get some!:D
     
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    I don't know if you're inferring this device, whatever it is, would be used by the TSA.

    Note in the article they say several times it's a metal detector. The TSA has been clear in saying that any shoe device would need to detect metal and explosives.
     
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    Yes.
    Nah, I didn't mean to infer that at all.. sorry..
    Just astounded that it's being used at all..
    And who knows what the TSA will do? Not me!
    Of course, what do I know?
    Not much!
    Hope everyone is having a super weekend! :)
     

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