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Discussion in 'Star Alliance' started by LFCorsten, Feb 6, 2011.
What is the best RTW with *A??
The cheapest RTW with *A you buy today at
Corea / Japan / South Africa !
You have three groups - 29000 miles / - 34000 miles or - 39000 miles ! Each ticket you can have 16 legs !
There are also some good airline-specific RTWs. Cheaper than the alliance one but not as flexible.
but which airline goes RTW? LH has no Pacific connection.
NZ and SQ have NZ-only and SQ-only RTW fares.
LH & LX have *A psuedo-RTW fares between Europe & Australia/NZ.
SQ/BD/NZ/VS have a RTW fare.
The SQ RTW in F is the best deal IMHO, It's $6700 + tax. No minimum trip length or minimum number of stopovers required.
To get a good answer you're going to have to give us more details. There's a pretty big range of RTW products, offered by *A itself and by the member airlines. Have a think about these questions:
What class do I want to fly in? (Econo, Business, First)
Which country do I want to start in?
How many stops do I need?
How much flexibility to change dates/routes/airlines do I need?
Are there any essential stops or locations or is it all up in the air?
Once you've thought about those (even if you don't have solid answers to all of them) it'll help narrow down what fares will/won't work in your situation. There's so many options that there's no 'one size fits all' solution.
It is just a general discussion. No plan now.
Well, in that case I've got to say that the 26,000miles *A Economy Special airfare is pretty good value. It's only available in some markets, but it can be a great way for a budget conscious traveller to get around. You put all your long-haul flights onto it and then you bounce around the continents on cheap LCC tickets. So (if you're picky) you can get decent comfort for the long-haul sectors and cheap seats for the very short ones.
Can we get more info on the SQ $6700 all in F around the world?
I don't think it "all-in". As posted above it's "6700 + tax". And if I'm not mistaken tax on SQ can be heavy. But I would also like to know more - tried to search on SQ website - no luck. Is it bookable by phone only?
I have used the LH RTW fare for the past 4 years every december (both in Y and J)... EX Australia only (before NOV 11 costing around 1700 without taxes). Very good value, but LH econ getting hard to bare. LH Z fare RTW ended up 7000 with taxes... used UA SWU to upgrade to new F on A380 FRA-NRT... very much worth it.
From my experience the SQ RTW hit around 10,500 with taxes...
Sometimes LH pseudo RTW fare is cheaper ex-NZ. For instance the Z fare is currently on sale at NZ$7500 incl tax.
If you don't mind me asking, where are you getting that info from? I always have a hard time keeping track of the niche RTW products.
Here's the official page on Singapore Air's website detailing their Around the World Fares:
Just note that SQ RTW have surcharges per sector and are very restrictive due to no backtracking.
You have to actually call them to book it, F books into A, C books into D.
If you fly in F, there's no surcharges, but be aware that it books into A, and 388's only allow R-class fares for suites, so you would be downgraded to C. C fares are subject to surcharges on 77W, 388, and 345 aircraft, so $5299 + 4-600 leg surcharge, it can actually be cheaper flying in F on the RTW. On FT, SFO777 has done two of these and there's another person (can't remember their handle) who books about 4 a year. In Europe you can do JFK-FRA, then on your own go to LHR/MUC/BCN/MXP etc.then continue on to SIN-ICN/NRT/HKG-SFO/LAX.
I have subscribed to many airlines (in several locations) so they email me when there are sales, plus I keep an eye out on a few useful websites.
Note the LH (and likewise some other Europe airlines) fare between Australia/NZ and Europe is technically not a RTW but a return fare that happens to allow routing via Asia or North America in each direction.
The SQ RTW fare has no backtracking except in Europe.
I have just booked an RTW FC beginning at GIG. The SQ product would have been ideal but I could not do the intra Asia travel on it that I wanted to do. The GIG-NYC-LXA-PVG-ULN-PEK-FRA-GIG ended out at roughly US$16,800.
Sounds expensive but it included the LH A380F and all other is F except for SQ 21, but the SQ Raffles on the A340-500 matches almost all F products anyway IMO. It also is cheaper than GIG-SIN in F on LH by far. How I wish we could get that $6700 RTW F from SQ but it is not offered originating here.
Does anybody have better ideas before I pay for this escapade?
I believe SQ RTW has only 3 months validity. Thus, less flexible than a 1-year *A RTW ticket. So, it's really depending on each traveler's needs.
I'm sorry, could you repeat that please??? and elaborate, if you don't mind
I think I paid twice that to fly IAH-MOW-SIN-LAX in F last year
Here's the link. Although the routing are limited (relatively speaking compared to *A RTW) it's almost a third of the price of the *AFRTW.
They also do not allow suites in A380 IIRC. But neither does the *A because SQ will not release A inventory.