"Rocks charge"?

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  1. violist
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    I was at the cabaret at the Smith Center in Vegas ... the menu says
    premium spirits $8, a good deal. I asked for a Maker's straight, got
    it, rinse and repeat. When I got the bill, there was a "rocks charge"
    of $3 a drink. Turns out they charge for the privilege of not having
    ice in my drink.

    What's up with that?
     
  2. NYBanker
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    I've heard of a lot of charges before...but that one is new to me! (though I get my drinks on the rocks...maybe it's more common than I know)
     
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    gee and here I thought they charged FOR ice, oh wait that's in Thailand;)
     
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  4. sobore
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    That's nuts. :(
    Hey at least you didn't get hit with the $2 "Clean glass service fee".
     
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  5. jbcarioca
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    No, that's in Nepal:rolleyes: Many years ago, 1967 IIRC, I was charged extra for a clean glass in Pathan. It was not much, and would have been worth it had I not observed my host picking up a dirty cloth from the earthen floor to use to "clean" my glass. I paid, but did not drink. It probably is nothing like that now.

    At least the rocks you did not have would have been clean had you chosen to have them!
     
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  6. newbluesea
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    Wow this is almost as bad as the additional three euro charge we got on a cup of coffee which we had at St Marks Square because the "pianist was playing":)
     
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  7. LarryInNYC

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    Dishonest pricing seems to be all the rage these days, whether it's fuel surcharges, resort fees, or this outrage.

    I predict a public backlash followed by legislative action. I suspect that, in the food service industry at least (where a tariff of costs is legally required in many states), these charges already border on criminal.
     
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  8. sobore
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    Makes the liquor counter at my local Walgreens at bit more appealing. ;)
     
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  9. dc_traveler
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    In late 2008, the bar at Adour (at the St. Regis in DC) charged an extra $2 for rocks with my scotch. We asked why the bar was charging for ice, and were told that the bar offers a larger pour when a drink is ordered with ice.

    Apparently the practice is not unique. For more than you ever wanted to know about this issue, here are a couple of links:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/504740
    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-03-29/local/29378471_1_bar-tab-charge-ice

    That said, I don't believe our group hasn't returned to the bar (although I have been to the restaurant since, which is very good and earns SPG points).

    For what it's worth, I try to repay bartenders who provide generous pours by leaving a more generous tip.
     
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    that's bull crap. The pour should be the same, however you have it served!
     
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    Certainly that's how we felt, which is why we have not returned to that bar in over three years.
     
  12. LarryInNYC

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    Note that the OP was charged for not having ice in his or her drink while you were charged because you had ice.
     
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    I missed that fact. Somehow it seems even worse to receive a "no ice" charge than to be charged for ice!
     
  14. DLroads
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    Weird Charges? in the east village, (on 2nd Avenue) there's a burger place that charges you $10 if they don't like your attitude... and I've seen them charging! (not, they did not charge ME, but I don't find their burger to be so good to justify freq. visits). I wonder how they write it on the bill:
    $10- problem handling?
    $10- we just don't like you?
    $10- because we can? (na... the last one is an airline charge line)
     
  15. LarryInNYC

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    It's listed as BWC and if anyone asks, it stands for "burger with cheese".

    Is this Paul's, by the way? Doesn't sound like it.
     
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    Imagine how much more your bill would have been if you had ice! I bet there still would have been a rocks charge too.
     
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    Just wait until the airlines decide to start charging for having, or not having, ice in mixed drinks, too! Or $.50 for a lime in your drink. After all you're more captive than in an actual bar. "I'm sorry, sir, yes cocktails are complimentary in F but that doesn't include the garnish, ice, or napkin. Only GS passengers are provided complimentary ice."

    Wow though, charging for not having ice is pretty ballsy.
     
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    Will check again next time I walk near
     
  19. violist
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    Pretty darn weird. I did note the good pour so left a good tip ... based on what
    the proper charge should have done ... and told the waitress that she would get
    the dough if she corrected the ticket, otherwise the evil establishment would. Also
    called the manager Matthew D....r and gave him an earful, ending with calling the
    self-important little turd a liar, which satisfaction was worth the surcharge.
     
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    Wow! Good for u for letting them know. I would promise not the visit this place b/c your experience but since I'd never go there it seems like a pretty empty statement. Hope others will avoid if they don't mention this on the menu or upon ordering!
     
  21. violist
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    Zo - what watchdog is there in Vegas to report this kind of thing to?
    Calling MrpAlert for advice (is he on this board?)
     
  22. Jeanne23

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    This is a little late, but one thing to watch out for that I've seen other fellow bartenders do is when you are charged for a specialty cocktail up. Usually the up-up-charge is already in the cocktail price and the up key is used for things not normally served up (say, straight vodka).

    We did the rocks charge because we did do a larger pour, but we'd get questioned if we had a lot of neat pours in the register with no rocks. (I personally hated hitting that key for regulars). But my guess is your charge was more from it being Vegas than a fear of her boss not believing her that there were no rocks.
     
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    I am familiar with the practice and have Ben told it is a quarter pour. If true, bars should identify it for what it is, taking credit for additional booze. Otherwise they look really petty charging only for ice.
     

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