Preferred plane type

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  1. profpeabody

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    Is there a list anywhere of the pros and cons of United plane types? For example, what are their best plane types for international travel to Europe, which are better for domestic?
     
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    It depends...
     
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    It depends very much on what is important to you and what cabin you're traveling in. An airline the size of United has a large fleet and there are many configurations for some routes.
     
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    There are four types of UA widebodies that go to Europe from the US:

    787 - this is the newest plane, and I believe it's only available via Houston. It has 3-3-3 seating in coach, and 2-2-2 seating up front. It's the newest of United's planes, with the most advanced features (like IFE).
    777 - this is the workhorse of the UA fleet. There are two configurations: 2-cabin and 3-cabin. In the 2-cabin configuration, it's 3-3-3 in coach and 2-2-2 up front. In the 3-cabin configuration, it's 1-1-1-1 in first, 2-4-2 in business, and 3-3-3 in coach. The most common complaint about this plane is the 2-4-2 in business. It's also an unreliable plane, as it takes a lot of MX delays.
    767 - There are a bunch of different configurations for this plane. Even has 2-3-2 in coach in one config.
    747 - the queen of the skies, and quickly moving to end of life. Huge plane. large first class cabin. a ton of business class seating. huge economy cabin.

    If you tell us what cabin you'd be flying in, and a little about what your likes/dislikes are, we can probably help better :)
     
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    There is also a narrowbody that goes to Europe from the US. UA flies a 757-200 from numerous east coast cities. It's actually fairly comfortable if you're up front - with a 2-2 configuration. It is, however, a very old plane and not particularly clean/attractive. Works fine for short hops to London and the like.
     
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    It's not an old plane. Most of the ex-Continental 752s that fly to Europe were delivered in the mid-late nineties and 2000, with the oldest dozen or so dating back to 1994. These aircraft have modern interiors, with state-of-the-art built-in IFE (the trend now is to have BYOD bring your own device entertainment), and are certainly not a bad ride. Some do not like them because they are a "narrow body" aircraft, with only one aisle and 3-3 seating in Economy. The lie-flat BusinessFirst seats are identical to the BusinessFirst seats offered on all 2-Cabin United aircraft.

    Having less people on the plane makes for a nicer, quieter experience, IMO. Plus, the 752 handles like a sports car compared to pretty much every other aircraft in the fleet.
     
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    As always, it's perspective. I fly on so many new planes on Lufthansa, Emirates, etc. -- and last week got to fly on a UA 789 which was a year old, if that -- that I consider a 15-20 year old 752 to be old. Also, to me they "feel old" on the inside. They're not in great shape, aesthetically.

    But as I wrote in my post, and which you alluded to in your reply, they're actually quite good in front for the routes they're used on. Comfortable and, as you said, a much smaller and quieter plane.
     
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    All of the UA 767s have 2-3-2 in Y. The real difference in the few variations is what the premium cabin looks like, the IFE in Y and the overhead bins in Y.

    Is mostly a waste of time for the UA fleet.
    That is the trend on the UA domestic fleet but not the long-haul fleet.
    The 767s are equally old, FWIW. So are many of the 777s. And most of the LH A340s.
     
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    Can you explain why you are saying this - I am quite interested in your explanation, and would welcome a better suggestion to assess "seat comfort/pain level"
    Thanks!
     
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    Thanks for the helpful feedback. Mostly fly award tickets in biz or 1st and the experience has been really uneven. I was thinking a list of planes with the pros and cons would help in deciding which flights to book. The info above is just the kind of thing that helps. Seatguru is good and I do use it but had a sort of quick reference cheat sheet in mind. Agree that the United fleet is tired. But so is Delta and have not had great experiences with American. Anyway, thanks again for the helpful info.
     
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    Because the site does not invest sufficient resources to properly track the various configs and maintain accurate information on the good/bad seats on offer.

    The lack of commentary about the foot well space in C on any of the 2-cabin planes is a perfect example of how the site fails miserably.
     
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    Thanks! Would also welcome a suggestion for a better website to assess "seat comfort/pain level" on UA flights.
     
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    There are essentially two different seats, those from the sCO and those from the sUA side of the operation. The sCO seats are generally slightly wider and slightly shorter tip-to-toe. The IFE systems also vary a bit but, generally speaking, offer similar content and functions; the newer versions offer more content overall and the newest (787-9) has the second screen whereby the remote control can show you a map while the main screen shows a movie.

    There are also some minor catering differences between 2-cabin and 3-cabin C.

    But an overall list of pros/cons suggests that everyone values the same things in a flight experience. And that is far from true.
     
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    FT/MP do a decent job. There is no perfect solution out there.
     
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    O.K., thanks - perhaps one of the travel bloggers could be convinced that a UA-centric seating chart would be useful, and compile and share this information.
     
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    Can you think up a way to weave in some credit card links? ;)
     
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    Sorry, a momentary lapse of reason...

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    Too many people have too many different preferences. Not worth the effort to build and maintain IMO.
     
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    That does it - I'm going back to using www.seatguru.com!
     
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    I really like the B752s as well. They've been upgraded nicely. I wonder does Boeing ever regret pulling the B757 out of production.
     
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    Yes. It's been discussed by them, and in less formal settings, ad nauseum. Big mistake.
     
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    All 767s have 2-3-2 in coach. That was Boeing's standard configuration for the type, and the aircraft's cross section isn't wide enough for more than 7 seats across the back, but it's also way too wide for 6 seats back there. Also, UA only has three configurations of the 767 at this point, and will be going to two. There's a single configuration for the 767-400, with two classes. For the 767-300, there are two configurations, three class and two class, but they're converting the three class planes to two class, which will include the replacement of all of the outdated interior fittings in those particular aircraft. The two class 767-300s look very much the same as the 767-400s inside, with the only real difference being the door configuration and length of the fuselage; the 767-400 is longer so it has more seats in both BusinessFIrst and economy.
     
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    The non stop united flight from EWR to BOM operates on a 777 I think
    service on board is very nice especially in business class
    a huge difference from flying united on domestic sectors!!!
    seats are comfortable full flat and non-stop 14 hours to India is great
    if flying to BOM or DEL from EWR it makes more sense than emirates, etihad or lufthansa as it is non stop
     
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