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Politics of Airlines: MASTER THREAD

Discussion in 'General Discussion | Travel' started by ahappyelite, Jul 6, 2018.

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    The cartel decides when you fly where you fly from and the major perhaps only objective is fleeced passengers sitting on 120% full flights. This works best by forcing everything through hubs and wasting millions of hours a year with unnecessary connections in far flung places. It is also a gift to those who wish us ill. If you’ve travelled through an overjammed hub at peak times ordained by the cartel, you can see all the corner cutting to move the lines. Flying from one of the dwindling number of secondary airports, security tends to be much more thorough.
    The country could use a strong safety regulator but has the totally corrupted FAA and the meekest agency of government the TSA which takes its orders from the cartel-its master- and is scared stiff of them.
     
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    In 1988, a small number of airlines kept most UK residents grounded with sky high fares and few choices, sparking a campaign called "Let the People Fly." One of the great things that happened in the British Isles was the breaking up of that cartel and the rise of a competitive airline industry that drove fares to where they are now" prices regularly $25, $50, just flew for $12. Meanwhile, incredibly, in the United States we have gone in the direct opposite direction-allowing for four carteliers to control 80% of the market. Now that they have been or surely will be found guilty of collusion and price fixing, where is the political will to smash this cartel and allow millions who can't now take to the skies of their own country? The silence of the media is so blatant and shows the power of the internet to control and spood feed information so that in many ways the nation is less informed today than in the days when newsprint and faxes ruled.
     
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    Despite the total media blackout, there’s no doubt airfare searches must be way down as Americans discover that because of collusion and price fixing, fares set in stone at absurd inflated levels, there’s no use looking for low airfares. In some limited markets where spirit and frontier fly it is not as obscene but price fixing means the majors are charging the same prices all days of weeks all hours of the day. And with the cartel cozier than ever fares look to be nosebleed going into the Fall and Winter. And even Spirit and Frontier have been given loads of collusion buffer space to jack up their prices on their Sorry offerings.
     
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    Notice the announcement of this by the VP of "Inflight Services", every bit as perverse as the "Friendly Skies." Title should be VP, Destruction, Inflight Services.
    Total indictment of safety regulators
    Total indictment of consumer regulators (many once a year flyers will sign up for these worthless cards)
    total indictment of UA's disrespect for passengers, even the highest spenders
    total indictment of UA's disregard for its employees
    As the values of the cards, like air travel itself, has plummeted, the aerial hard sell becomes more vital.
    https://www.inc.com/chris-matyszczy...t-airline-is-suddenly-forcing-them-to-do.html
     
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    The Dark Age of US aviation ushered in by the lying whoppers that mergers would be great for customers. Even the Washington Post had to take its head out of the sand as millions of Americans return from competitive Europe to corrupt America. Not only are fares already MUCH lower before the soon to arrive all out price fixing in the US, service is being ADDED to secondary and tertiary airports. America’s cartel is choking the life out of hundreds of US city’s.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...ts-so-much-cheaper-in-europe-than-in-the-u-s/
    And United and Delta are announcing their seat discipline, aka price fixing and collusion in broad daylight.
     
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    What is the cost to small business and non hub city’s to being held hostage by a vicious cartel. Here’s Evansville begging the cartel to throw it a lifeline-incredible how undemocratic the nation is with a world class corrupted political system. What would the financial benefit be if pax could reach the northeast (in 2018!)
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/721921002
     
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    Anyone who doubts the total seizure by big money of old and new media should read this piece of balderdash. In a summer where folks are paying $600-800 all over the place for short flights in the US and Europeans, Japanese and South Africans are paying less than $100 and in some cases $12 for theirs, this staggering piece of pure propaganda that truly would put a smile on the face of Stalin etc. if you were teaching a course on ethics and journalism (and dissembling) you could center half the semester on this jem
    https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-airfares-jet-fuel-prices-20180717-story.html?outputType=amp
     
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    A thunderous ovation from Wall Street as the “competition” curtain drops with United’s announcement that it will be the industry leader in price fixing and will quarterback the staggering carfelcollusion that is destroying choice, allowing carteliers to extort huge airfares, and is choking off hundreds of American communities. A once great democracy that turns its aerial mass transit into the hands of stock “analysts” @ UBS and JP Morgan sullies the notion of a free country. And yes this grand larceny was all launched in the Obama Administration with the allowance of corrupt mergers.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bl...s-2018-profit-forecast-bucking-industry-gloom
     
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    Anyone remember the farcical Congressional hearing last May will recall the prediction that big money owned Congress would go MIA for voters and would slavishly service the needs of its owners, the hedge funds. Well, July 18, 2018 will live in infamy as the day the cartel announced to the world that the era of inter cartel competition or even the appearance of it was over.
     
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    Southwest now charging at least $140 for even its shortest flights-gone gone gone are the days of them being on the Ryanair model-which is thriving with young Europeans flying everywhere while most Americans can barely afford to go to an adjoining state. And of course there aren’t many of these $140 flights-Southwest is routinely the highest fare on its routes especially where they are an effective monopoly. To snag one of their lowerhighfares you have to go outbound on Tuesday, Wednesday or Saint Baldricks Day and return on a Sunday, Wednesday or a day when the relative humidity is 85% or higher (and showers are forecast)
     
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    In an era of media uselessness and government corruption you can publicly have the ask/tell with JP Morgan that appears on this transcript. He’s going to ask the question “in a way that (Kirby) can answer it” Price channeling is the new price fixing signal, apparently . Anyone else remember when a free press would pounce on this?
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/seekin...unoz-q2-2018-results-earnings-call-transcript
     
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    Pretty sad that even the Malaysian press and political system is less corrupted than our own, pointing out that artificial constriction of demand hurts hotels etc . Imagine what free market aviation would bring the US? If seats weren’t rationed and collusion was smashed? What is the true cost of cartel air?
    Of course high fares hurt tourism. But US media refuse to cover this reality (find one insightful US story that examines what the cartel has wrought-you can’t.)
    http://www.theedgemarkets.com/artic...mestic-airfares-have-stifled-domestic-tourism
     
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    Just a friendly reminder for those living in or going to places where it snows, before you plunk down a huge deposit that because of collusion air travel is less than reliable in the winter. And because of seat scarcity, this means you may not just get out the next day, your entire trip may have to be shelved. With more and more hotels and cruise lines demanding 100% payment, make your risk calculations carefully. Some stats show cancellations are as high as 1/20 flights now that cartel operational convenience trumps getting people there. Honest media would do stories about this which is why there are none.
     
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    Airwelliam America:
    Most hostile airline is the Friendly Skies
    Airline that decimated its legroom still lives off it
    Airline whose rewards program was gutted and doesn’t even have a value chart makes billions-more than when its program was good-on selling worthless miles
    Airline with the highest fares centers its ads on “low fares” (their current campaign
    Anyone else remember consumer protection? Over and over again, cartel mocks Amerca
     
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    Now that everyone has caught on that A4A math is so bogus “adjusted for inflation” “excluding fees” “compared to 1924” airfare is a bargain (never saying it is dirt cheap in Europe-just saw winter fares for $8) time for A4A to tell everyone that airfare is slightly less expensive in adjusted terms than crossing the nation by pony in 1875 (averaging four average sized adults per stagecoach and 20 miles per day with only a bathroom break every 12 hours.)
     

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