Pirate Business is Failing

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  1. MX

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    continue reading here: http://www.reuters.com/assets/print?aid=USBRE91905420130210
     
  2. Shooting them before they get to the ships is a very good deterrent along with increased patrols by various Countries who have shoot to kill orders as well. I also think the Somalian government, such as it is, has been able to curtail their efforts on land.
     
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    I think you need to read up on the reasons for the rise of piracy in the region in the first place. Also explains (in good part) the decline in piracy right now.
     
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    No need for the lecturing tone. ;)
    If you had something specific in mind, just go ahead and share with us.
     
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    To be honest, I think most people would benefit from researching this on their own, there are a couple good articles out there on this. Most westerners subscribe to the "pirates are there because they are bad" theory without realizing the real causes here. But here is a summary for you anyway.

    Illegal fishing in the early 90's by European and Asian countries when Somalian (non-existent) government was unable to protect its own sovereign borders led to destruction of livelihood for majority of coastal population that dependent on small fishing for food and money. Fishing stock within typical fishing distance collapsed. This was also made worse by illegal dumping of toxic waste in the region by foreign companies. With no food, nothing better to do and loads of cheap weapons in the country, piracy became a reasonable endeavor. This is also the reason why most pirates failed miserably, they were neither trained nor equipped to pull off any of the ship take overs, leading to most of them failing or dying. Piracy, now wide spread and far more organized, decreased and then stopped just about all the illegal fishing in the region. Over the past few years, fishing stocks have been coming back up, making traditional living an easier (and safer) job. Stabilization of the economy (relatively speaking) in the coastal region also provides options beyond what is statistically a hopeless endeavor of trying to hi-jack a ship.
     
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    Thanks FB. But do check the Reuters article for the actual numbers of successful ship takeovers by Somali pirates: 27 in 2010, 25 in 2011, 5 in 2012, and none in the last 6 months. I'd be very surprised if the economics of fishing the Indian Ocean has so drastically improved in these two years.
     
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    I am not sure why you decided to take just those 3 years. 2010 saw 53 ships attacked or hijacked. The issue also goes back 20 years, not just the past few. Look at the numbers in 2009 (117 ships!), 2008, 2007, 2006, ... And that's not even accounting for all the unreported (and unsuccessful) attacks as well as the ransom deals that never became public. So you are talking about far longer period of time than 2 years... and you are actually talking about 3 years, btw.
     
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    So now you agree then that the pirates did not "fail miserably" against unarmed vessels that paid ransom. The fishing business and other productive endeavors became attractive alternatives only after the potential victims started shooting back at them. :p
     
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