Passengers oppose plans for smaller aircraft seats

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  1. sobore
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    http://www.travelmole.com/news_feature.php?news_id=2002101

    Passengers have reacted angrily to a proposal by Airbus to make economy seats smaller to accommodate a few new extra-wide ones, which airlines are expected to sell at a premium.

    Airbus has suggested it could increase the width of aisle seats on its A320s by two inches, making them 20 inches wide, at the expense of the middle and window seats, which would each lose an inch making them just 17 inches wide.

    The aircraft manufacturer evidently believes this could provide a solution for larger passengers who don't fit into a standard airline seat. At the moment, they have to book two seats, sometimes at higher cost.

    However, a survey by flight comparison site Skyscanner found that 84% of passengers felt it was wrong that most passengers would have to squeeze into smaller seats as a result.

    Of the 1,000 people who responded to the survey, the majority thought the idea was "ridiculous" and "unfair", said Skyscanner.

    Read More: http://www.travelmole.com/news_feature.php?news_id=2002101
     
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  2. Mapsmith
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    It is ridiculous. If you are going to do something to make a seat more attractive--like make it wider. Then do it to the least popular seats in the plane--the middles. Or even the rows immediately in front of the Exits that do not recline.

    I always thought that the airlines should make all seats EXCEPT the Middle Seats non Reclining. That way if you want to recline you know the person behind you and in front of you will recline as well.
    (rant off)
     
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    I'm all for wider seats. I wish they could do it without penalizing the adjacent seats.
     
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    This is such a ridiculous idea.

    You could almost work for NK!
     
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    It's shameful and ridiculous. That's not the greatest proposal ever.:mad:
     
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    Make them all wider!;)
     
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    Boeing implemented this years ago, except they failed to make the aisle seat wider.

    http://crankyflier.com/2012/06/05/i...the-new-wider-airbus-aisle-seat-anytime-soon/

    In other words, Airbus' proposed narrower seats would be the width of the standard Boeing 737 seats. I wonder if those surveyed were offered that bit of information.
     
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    Oh! Thanks for the information! Plus, of course such surveys have to appeal to a certain clientele.:)
     
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    This is ridiculous but I doubt that any of us would be shocked or surprised that people are angry at this proposal.
    When will the airlines start selling standing room? :)
     
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    Some folks work already hard on it.....:eek:

    Ridiculous indeed!:mad:
     
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    Is that the chair that Hannibal Lechter was strapped to in Silence of the Lambs?

    I thought that one of the budget carriers in Europe proposed standing room a couple of years back but couldn't remember for sure...
     
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    Indeed, you remember right, it was Ryanair, who else? I remember the storm clearly, this is the same airline who " mock " proposed that passengers pay for using the toilets while flying!:eek:
     
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    Yes! It was Ryanair. Right they did also propose charging for the bathroom. What geniuses. Talk about stupidity...
     
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    Even worse they try now for their third time in so many years to take over Aer Lingus, which of course would be ridiculous, and even more worse is that the politician think about the proposal more seriously this time around with the state of Ireland looking to sell their 25% stake in the airline. God help and for goodness sake, this cannot happen and shall not happen.
     
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    Ouch, I sure hope that does not happen! I've been wanting to visit Ireland and don't want to deal with the BS of Ryanair!
     
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    Etihad could be the white knight, the airline owns around 3% of Aer Lingus and wants to strengthen their ties, at least this has been reported lately and let's be honest not many want to see Ryanair to run Aer Lingus, Etihad would be a saving grace and opens up markets for the airline which weren't there previously. There's hope that the Irish government does the right thing without being desperate right now.
     
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    ......BS of Ryanair.....WELL SAID!:D Bums on seats.....remember!?!;)
     
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    Interesting, although I'd prefer to see Aer Lingus owned by a European country or airline.
    Has there ever been talk of Virgin buying into Aer Lingus?
     
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    Why is this ridiculous? I don't particularly like it because I often pick a window seat... but airlines have for quite a while now offered seats with different amounts of leg room and we don't call that ridiculous. We call it "Economy Plus" or "Economy Comfort" (or bulk head/exit row). And airlines do charge extra for those seats. So how is this different and ridiculous?
     
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    /sarcasm on

    Everyone is looking at this the wrong way. Besides being a business decision (which the public will whine and moan over and then, eventually, accept because there's not other choice) let's view this as another important step in the fight against obesity. The next "charge for" item should be those moving sidewalks at airports. All in an effort to make us thinner.

    /sarcasm off
     
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    Excellent point of view!:D

     
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    Earn an extra 1000 miles when you select a seat in our 'Economy Agony' cabin.
    You'll enjoy 26 inches of legroom and a distressing 8 inch wide seat!

    * Extrication fee may apply if needed
     
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    Etihad is a great airline and we shall not forget that Ireland is a target market for the UAE as well, plus many passengers from Ireland love to fly via Abu Dhabi on to lets say BKK. Tourism to the Middle East is growing, business travel is growing and connections via the middle east are also growing, this could be great for Aer Lingus too beside flying throughout Europe and to the US.

    Regarding Virgin, this comes and goes, such speculations are ripe, but mostly I think that Virgin does not want Aer Lingus in all seriousness, these are mostly shots against BA, a la Branson vs. Walsh.

    Let's see where Aer Lingus will safely land, hopefully in the right hands too of a new owner who desires to build up the airline, expand and invests into the right products, this alone leaves Ryanair out of the equation.
     
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    +5000 miles* if you're willing to fly with a pay-per-use oxygen mask and a rental parka in the cargo hold.

    *restrictions may apply, Limited quantities available, Passengers wearing personal "cold abatement" devices will not receive reward. Airline assumes no liability for lost appendeges.
     
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    this isn't some sort of socialist plan to make unequal seats equal, but rather one to make premium seats worth paying for. You already acknowlege that some seats are better and more desirable than others, is it so wrong to collect more revenue from them. The remaining seats will still be similar to 737 seats, so it's not like they are breaking new ground.
    Now that's just ridiculous and vindictive. If you want non-reclining seats, direct your business to airlines who offer that.
     
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