No female TSA agents means no flight for Denver woman

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  1. sobore
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    http://myfox8.com/2012/02/10/no-female-tsa-agents-means-no-flight-for-denver-woman/

    A Denver woman claims she couldn’t board a flight from Wyoming to Denver because of her gender. Jennifer Winning makes the flight from the small airport of Rock Springs, WY to Denver often, but on January 29th it was different.
    “They wouldn`t let me get on the plane because I`m female,” Winning said.
    She said she checked in and arrived at security about 35 minutes before the scheduled departure of her United flight.
    “They asked if I was on the flight to Denver, I said yes, they said that they couldn`t screen me because they sent all the female TSA agents home,” Winning said.
     
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    Nice....
     
  3. sobore
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    Can’t you just hear the TSA supervisor?
    How was I to know there would be females on that flight”? “If I had known this, we would have staffed accordingly” :rolleyes:
     
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    Not a lawyer of course, but could this be legally defined as discrimination?
     
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    They don't close the flight until 15 minutes before departure time. TSA should have been staffed fully until then.
     
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    This is ludicrous! Couldn't they have just let her pass through the normal scanner
     
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    If they went through the "normal scanner" (I assume you mean the walk-thru metal detector), what if she alarmed? That means a female screener would need to give her the government-issued grope. The TSA isn't about to let someone walk in and then walk out of the screening process.

    Having read stories over a decade of the TSA covering its ass on a regular basis, here is my speculation on what happened:
    - The front-line screeners told her the truth at the start about no female screeners and the overtime thing, not even thinking this would get media attention.
    - Story gets media attention.
    - TSA in damage control-mode (again) starts quoting rules that are usually bent, and when it's convenient for them and/or the airline when it gets in a pickle, like this.
    - TSA calls the airline, asks for some help, airline says "yeah, dem's de rules."

    If you have ever flown out of a small airport, such as Carlsbad, they don't even open up the checkpoint until 20-30 minutes before the flight is supposed to depart....the letter-of-the-law usage of the rules is crap, and they know it.

    Let's face it, today was a slow news day. If Mitt Romney said something stupid again, Ahmedinnerjacket did more sabre-rattling or Lindsay Lohan flashed her crotch again, this story would never have gotten to where it is now.

    And like the Rand Paul story, it will be swept under the rug before you know it.
     
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    Might be, but I doubt.
     
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    Any media attention is good. Hopefully the autocracy will end some day..
     
  10. TheBeerHunter
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    As a female myself, I would have asked for a male pat down. :D I am sure he would have been much more concerned than I about any impropriety.
     
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    What, you aren't feeling safer these days?? ::sarcasm::
     
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    I suspect that's not allowed.
     
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    It is in my house.
     
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    Does your partner get to wear a TSO uniform? How about blue disposable gloves? :D
     
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    Yes, and because security is of paramount importance, I have added an additional component to the pat down process, requiring a leather whip and a pair of handcuffs... something the TSA has clearly overlooked.
     
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    Apparently this is what the passenger attempting to clear security requested. She even offered to sign a waiver.
     
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    I almost chocked on my food while reading your post. Just imagine you walk in an airport and there are TSA agents with handcuffs and a LEATHER WHIP. :)
     
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    And it's insane that this is not "good enough". I am more than happy to have my enhanced pat down out in the open, for all to see, by a man or woman. Who cares?!
     
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    The TSA. They don't want the appearance of any kind of bias or deviation from political correctness.
     
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    What if I declared myself a lesbian? Then could I get a male pat down?
     
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    For all you know, the TSA employee performing the patdown is a lesbian.
     
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    Exactly. So why do I need a female pat down? It's so stupid.
     
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    IMO even more stupid is the idea that if the female passenger had gone through the detectors without alarming (and without opting out if the airport had a nudeoscope), no putdown would have been required. It was only some potential hypothetical need for a patdown that caused the concern about no female TSA employee being on duty. It would be interesting to know how many male TSA employees were on duty then and specifically how many were receiving overtime pay.
     
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    I don't know, you'd have to ask the TSA on that one.
     
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    If I wasn't currently traveling with my husband I just might...
     

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