New P.S. Configuration Photos

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  1. genemk2

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    I don't recall seeing a post about this, but I got a chance to take a ride in the new PS bird and took some photos. If you're in BF, rows 1 and 5 have larger footwells (as shown below). However, 1A and 1B, and 5A, and 5B, are pretty exposed to the galley and I got galley light during a red-eye flight. Luckily they give out eyemasks, so it wasn't an issue, but something to be aware of. 1E/F and 5E/F are better in that regard.
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    This is Row 1E/F:
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    This is Row 5A/B
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    Looking at 5E/F:
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    Looking at 5A/B:
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    This is the first row of Economy Plus, Row 20 - note the limited legroom, no floor storage, and limited recline.
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    This is Row 21. It has the most legroom of all the E/E+ seats.
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    This is a regular Economy Plus row:
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    And this is a regular Economy row:
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    A look at the economy cabin from the rear - AVOD throughout, and AC plugs.
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    This is a look from the back of the rear BF cabin (looking at Door 2):
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    And this is a look from the back of the front BF cabin (looking at Door 1)-- complete with model FA:
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    And finally a look from the front of the front BF cabin, from Door 1:
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  2. downhillcrasher

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    Nice photos!!! Thanks for posting.
     
  3. NYCUA1K

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    Not much else to add to the nice pics of the p.s., except that the power outlets are more conveniently located back, right above the left or right shoulder, depending on where one's sitting.

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    Great photos- thanks for sharing- looks like the new product is quite nice.
     
  5. Ryan Bingham
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    Looks alright but a lot of small things not done that surprise me - looks like they couldn't spend a few extra bucks and replace the factory issued overhead ceiling panels with the newer scooped panels; didn't replace the overhead psu's with newer adjustable reading lights and vents. Heck Delta's nearly entire 757 fleet, including the old NWA planes, have newer amenities. If you're going to hype up such wonderful service and amenities - go the extra mile.
     
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    Looks to me like the vents are adjustable. Not the lights, but the personal air vents definitely appear to be.
     
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    Yep the air vents on those passenger service units are fully adjustable.
     
  8. goalie
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    Nice pics and thanks for sharing :)
     
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    Are these just on the LAX run or has SFO got some now too? IIRC there are three operating now with another three coming on through the summer. I've both LAX and SFO flights confirmed for this fall currently booked into the front cabin F pods according to the old generic seating map.
     
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    Are these just on the LAX run or has SFO got some now too? IIRC there are three operating now with another three coming on through the summer. I've both LAX and SFO flights confirmed for this fall currently booked into the front cabin F pods according to the old generic seating map.
     
  11. Misplaced Texan
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    Nice pics. So it's basically the sCO BF seat, no? I'm not as familiar with that one as the sUA lie-flat, but if it's not exactly the same seat, it's pretty close.
     
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    Ooops duplicate. Didn't think my original posted from 25K feet up there.
     
  13. SeaRaptor
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    Yes, it's the sCO BF product. The forward cabin looks to be a replica of what sCO did with their international 752 fleet. The big change from that config to this one is the "additional" BF cabin aft of door 2L; on the international birds, that is the start of E+.

    I am curious to see if these configurations find their way on to more premium-heavy international routes if they aren't occupied doing transcons. Are any of the p.s. birds certified for ETOPS?
     
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    There were rumors at one point suggesting that such a migration might happen; LHR is a market which could likely support it. But it would mean getting the planes to EWR and that's not really happening these days.
     
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    True. I wonder if UA would even consider running them JFK-LHR with the Newark hub just across the river.
     
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    Independent of ETOPS, there are a few references that come out of a Google search suggesting that UA would have to up-rate the engines and increase the certified MTOW on the p.s. 752s to make them capable of a crossing. No idea whether that is true or not.

    Given their history with fleet utilization, I could certainly see this management team wanting to be able to run those birds on more complex routings than simply shuttling back-and-forth between the coasts and that would including adding J seats to certain city pairs on certain days.

    But airline fleet planning is way beyond my pay grade. I just pay money to sit on airplanes.
     
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    I'm no expert and have only visited NYC a few dozen times, so I don't really know the geography that well and don't know the business culture of the p.s. customers at all, but would shifting p.s. to EWR versus JFK be a deal-breaker?

    It's my impression that the two airports are pretty much the same distance from downtown and that neither is really an easier cab/car service ride than the other.

    Is there just a cache to flying into/out of JFK versus EWR that makes it necessary to use it for p.s.?
     
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    More like they have to compete with DL, AA, VX and B6 on the route and those airlines all either do or soon will offer a better premium cabin than a typical domestic F on that route. In EWR there isn't the same level of competition. And there is enough paying premium business that simply walking away from the JFK-LAX/SFO markets would be a foolish business decision.
     
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    I was on UA 808 (SFO-JFK) 5/18 and it was a PS plane. Sadly I didn't clear the list so I was in the back -- same as the earlier JFK-LAX flights I had. I was in the front on the LAX return that time but it was the old plane :(

    Yeah I know... first world problems. :)
     
  20. Canadi>n
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    The PS front cabin customer is a senior exec Manhattanite or bi-coastal celebrity who'd never be caught on the Jersey side of the Hudson! ;) That doesn't mean UA mightn't introduce an uber-premium transcon from EWR, but remember, PS isn't UDUable, so there'd be considerable outcry from 1Ks and other elites about not being able to upgrade to the west coast.
     
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    I know SFO-JFK-SFO is a PS route. My question was about the current dispersion of the new interior planes being on both LAX and SFO or just LAX first, then onto SFO flights as more planes are converted.
     
  22. genemk2

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    This new PS config appears to be making the SFO route from time to time.
     

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