New Hyatt chart side-by-side with Starwood

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  1. MileCards

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    The top starwood properties are still multiples of the top Hyatt ones in redemption cost...
     
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    Are you saying that 30,000 Starwood points should be valued much higher than 30,000 Hyatt points?
     
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    No, although they do earn more slowly and go further in some uses this is not my point.

    The top starwood properties cost much more than 30000 points.
     
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    There are about a dozen or so luxury beach resort properties that they charge 40-140,000 points a night for.

    Hyatt doesn't really have any comparable ones aside from Maldives, Abu Dhabi, and Goa (which are great redemptions if you make the trek). Cat 7 Hyatt vs Cat 7 SPG is typically urban luxury.
     
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    Good point, urban luxury and ski covers all of hyatt's cat 7s.
     
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    Holy Excrement! I just got a brand-new Chase Hyatt Visa last Friday!
    I was confident that Hyatt would leave its program alone for a few more years. Gee, I remember when GP had only 4 categories so top-of-the-line was 15K!
     
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    Okeeeeeeiii... And from an earning perspective, you earn 2 SPG points vs 5 GP points + elite bonus. SPGs most desirable properties (a handful) costs an insane amount of points to redeem and will never be worth it, while Hyatt has a handful very desirable properties at the new category 7 for 30k points a night.

    At the end of the day, the two programs are totally different from an earning perspective and while we all hate devaluation, I still find Hyatt GP to be much more reasonable than Starwoods pricing of luxury properties
     
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    It was a reasonable point that hyatt's cat7 properties are comparable to starwoodhotels cat7 "standard" non suite-only properties, so pricing is similar at the top or comparable properties numerically, but as you say starwood earn is quite a bit slower. CC earn for hyatt is better too for those who don't actually stay in hotels (for better or worse).
     
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    If you look isolated on credit card spend besides Hyatt stays (3), restaurants, car rental and plane tickets (2), the Hyatt credit card only gives 1 point per dollar spent. But SPG also flat out gives 1 point per dollar spent on everything, except SPG stays (2).

    As a top tier with SPG, you can get a maximum of 5 points per dollar spent at properties, while Hyatt gives 9.5. In addition, Hyatt gives full breakfast AND a 1000 point welcome bonus for Diamonds, while SPG Plat earns only continental breakfast OR 500 points.

    At the end of the day, earnings at properties is double with Hyatt, so I wouldn't say there's any benchmark to SPG even if Cat 7 is 30K for both (35k for high season with SPG)
     
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    Do not forget the various UR cards also - travel 2x of course, but also office supplies 5x and lots of points in circulation from signup bonuses.
    To nitpick at 75 nights that 5 can bump up to 6, but obviously still earning Hyatt points much faster.
    There's no doubt on this - one "point" is certainly not close to equal in cost to obtain between the programs.
     
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    no arguments from me, I'm in Singapore and we don't have UR or SPG cards :(
     

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