Well, no surprise here, all of these on ANY airline suck. HA just dials up the discomfort factor with their 30" pitch and that bare hunk of unforgiving aluminum that you have to stick your knees in. To quote Kevin O'Leary "It is the worst experience I've ever had in my life on an airline. I would never fly that again. I believe, and it is my personal opinion, that every hour you spend on Rouge , you lose two years of your life expectancy. It was absolute crap and it hurts their brand. I will never fly it again". I'm sure he would say the same thing about Hawaiian.