My new coworker asks --- What do those economy class letters represent?

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  1. Indiana Delta Diamond
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    My initial response was to ask how many hours does he have?

    So, I am on a mission on educating. My first installment was on the fare buckets, advance purchase requirements, and married segments.

    Second installment, not written yet, will be on change fees, same day confirmed, and same day standby. :)
     
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    Third installment, either your coworker will join MP or your coworker will shoot you.

    Keep us informed, we're curious which of the two happens.
     
  3. Indiana Delta Diamond
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    He needs to learn this stuff if he is going to be a good Medallion. :)
     
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    Think about what he needs to know and prioritize

    Only DL rules and farecodes, SkyTeam, or an overview of all carriers

    Foreign or domestic travel

    Business, leisure, or both

    Interest primarily in upgrades or award tickets

    Book tickets himself or use corporate travel or human travel agent

    Travel alone or with companions to upgrade and/or children


    In addition to booking and changing tickets, he'll probably need information soon regarding what to do in IROPs, how best to get help, and what his rights are.

    Later you'll want to expand the lessons to hotels, credit cards, etc.
     
  6. alpinesoccer
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    I constantly find myself having to educate my coworkers. I work in Africa and most people get one R/T biz class paid by the company every three months. Some hadn't even signed up for frequent flyer miles.
     
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    I'm surprised he noticed enough to ask.
     
  8. TRAVELSIG
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    Yup.
    I know a guy in HK who flies at least one round trip a month on CX in paid business or first to America- he still says "he can't be bothered" to join the Marco Polo Club and Asia Miles ("too much paperwork")!
     
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    Then it's your job to sign him up!
     
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    I'm praying we'll see his coworker on this board soon, otherwise, IDD may have difficulties keeping us informed, don't you think? On the other hand, we might read about it elsewhere.
     
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    Don't people like that usually have personal assistants do paperwork for them?
     
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    he probably does, and the assistant set up an FF account for him, just didn't bother telling him. The assistant then has the login and PW, and uses the miles him/herself. :eek:
     
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    Actually- this could be right :)
     
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    In the resource-extracting industries, a lot of expats from OECD or non-OECD countries who get hired for work in (other) non-OECD countries far from their home country fit that description of not having bothered to sign up for -- forget great use of -- frequent flyer programs despite getting paid r/t travel like you mention.
     
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    You're right. I just wish I could get their miles.[​IMG]
     
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    Four RTs per year in business class to visit home or elsewhere sounds very generous to me, not knowing the conditions.
     
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    Hasn't he noticed others being treated better, especially when he looks around business class, and wondered why not me too?
     
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    Less so these days, and some have strict borders between work and personal.
     
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    Isn't this called embezzling?
     
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    no, it would be wrong, ethically.
     
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    Is this why KLM has their Petroleum Club? To keep them from getting the other benefits?
     
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    Can you offer to set up and control their account, for a nice finder's fee?
     
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    Not to my knowledge, as:

    1. there are those who are FB Platinum who are also members of Petroleum Club (thus getting benefits of both); and

    2. oil companies and so-called oil/oil company routes, being but a part of the extractive industries, have a Petroleum club while companies/routes involved in extracting solid (non-ONG) resources don't have a AF-KL Mining Club.
     
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    Middle of the Swamp in the Niger Delta, Nigeria. 56 days straight work, 11 hrs a day. (one day off a year, Christmas) Trust me its 6:15 am on a Sunday and I'm at my desk. (not exactly working);) Plus, I see 1,000 expat men, 7,000 Nigerian men, and 3 expat women.[​IMG] That's why they gave us Business class. Which by the way they just took away from anyone who is not in upper management or with 12 years experience. IE ME!!![​IMG] Now I have to play Russian Roulette with Upgrades and SWU. Also if you travel somewhere else in the world the cost has to be less then your cost "home". Otherwise you pay the difference.
    I actually have a Petroleum Club Card. I am a Flying Blue Ivory and Flying Blue Petroleum. If all the flights I take with AF/KL were credited to FB then I would be Platinum, but I credit all my flights to DL. So I get no benefits of being a Flying Blue Ivory Member, but I do get benefits from the Petroleum Card. Also note that there is no exclusive physical club on the oil routes. They just give you access to the regular AF/KLM Lounges.
    Here are the T&C's of FlyingBlue Petroleum: Either be a current Flying Blue member or accept to become one through your Flying Blue Petroleum membership, 2. Be employed by an oil, oil-related or gas company listed by AIR FRANCE and KLM, 3. Travel on at least one round-trip ticket to one of the AIR FRANCE and/or KLM long-haul oil destinations or two round-trip tickets on an AIR FRANCE and/or KLM short or medium-haul oil route.
    https://www2.klm.com/travel/aw_en/flying_blue/flying_blue_clubs/flying_blue_petroleum/index.htm

    Anyone who works for a major/global company or has an email related to a global company should check into this. I work for KBR and our company is preregistered. But it is worth a shot, the list is quite extensive on the companies that are preregistered (it doesnt cost the company anything, so ask your company's HR to sign up!!) Benefits are: its free and you get no hassle access to some nice benefits like lounge access etc. I also got upgraded to First Class TATL on the AF A380 (Not too shabby for me), and I always get lounge access in AMS in the Crown Lounge, even got a day bed for 6 hrs at CDG.

    For traveling to oil routes: The list of Oil routes includes all major US cities. "United States: Atlanta, Boston, Cincinnati, Dallas, Houston, Miami, New York, and San Francisco." So if you fly between any of these cities and CDG or AMS once a year then you would qualify for the next year.
     

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