More TSA Trusted Traveler Airports Announced

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  1. Captain Oveur
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    Here is the full article.

    In short, here's the deal:
    These will be in by the end of March:
    Reagan National Airport near Washington
    Salt Lake City International Airport
    John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York
    Chicago's O'Hare International Airport.

    And by the end of 2012:
    Baltimore-Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport
    Charlotte Douglas International Airport
    Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport
    Denver International Airport
    Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport
    Houston's George Bush Intercontinental Airport
    Honolulu International Airport
    New York's LaGuardia Airport
    Lambert-St. Louis International Airport
    Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport
    Puerto Rico's Luis Munoz Marin International Airport
    Orlando International Airport
    Philadelphia International Airport
    Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport
    Pittsburgh International Airport
    Oregon's Portland International Airport
    San Francisco International Airport
    Seattle-Tacoma International Airport
    Tampa International Airport
    Anchorage International Airport
     
  2. DCtrAAveler
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    Nice to see DCA on the list, and coming on line soon, but wish IAD were there, too.
     
  3. Captain Oveur
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    Only a matter of time, really. My guess is that this isn't the final list of airports to have it in 2012.
     
  4. ArizonaGuy
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    Also would be nice if I could..oh..I don't know.. participate. I know we chase elite status and premium awards fiendishly but does preferential treatment have to apply to common sense as well?
     
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    While the initial pilot was targeted to flyers with elite status, I don't believe that's exclusive for participation any longer. I thought that now, anyone with Global Entry (if not the other trusted traveler programs also) could use the PreCheck system so long as his/her trusted traveler ID# is part of his/her airline's FFP profile.
     
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    If you're a member of NEXUS and/or Global Entry, I think you're already in.

    I think participation might be based on whether an airline you have elite status with is participating. My hunch, for United, is that they didn't start early on because they're too busy merging with Continental (including their reservations programs).

    Remember that this is still in the "trial" phase. Knowing the TSA, this could take years to FULLY implement.
     
  7. FlyingBear
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    Or roll it out without completely testing it out :)
     
  8. legalalien
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    Since not all airlines participate at all airports, I wonder if there is a breakdown somewhere, e.g., which airlines will participate at ORD, SFO, etc.
     
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    Given the TSA has difficulty pouring water out of a boot with instructions on the heel, I think you're asking a lot there.
     
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    The first-level common sense aspect here is that people you can identify as low risk you can safely screen less thoroughly. Leaving aside the theatrical aspects of current policies for another day, elite status or global entry/nexus both provide information usable to flag someone as less of a risk.

    The trusted traveller programs are the way to get in for nonelites. At least at delta they were involved from the beginning.
     
  11. ArizonaGuy
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    And my point remains though I didn't expressly say this before: Preferential treatment (aka common sense) for those willing to pay for it. Elite status isn't free (generally), nor are trusted traveler programs. I get that it's a trial but let's assume some day it is no longer a trial. Unless Joe Public can register and be approved for free, it's ridiculous to believe people have to pay for the privilege of avoiding a physical scan and/or grope.
     
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    Extended checks cost money; either the program will be funded by all of us through taxes, or by those willing to pay a (relatively small) amount to go through the extra steps required to become 'trusted'. Since the program is optional, I prefer the latter.
     
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    It's my understanding that you do not need to be a Global Entry and/or NEXUS member to get into the program. My understanding is that you're in if you have it and/or if the airline you have elite status on invites you. I do not know if there's an additional cost if you're in through the latter.
     
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    Sadly the TSA seems to have limited the program to U.S. citizens. So even though a permanent resident can get NEXUS and Global Entry, and be vetted and trusted by Customs and Border Patrol, the TSA, another part of DHS, decides that being trusted by CBP isn't good enough. Where's the logic in that?
     
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    Let's try to remember that this was a pilot and for those of you who have less experience with these, they are experiments which often include only a small percentage of the total population.

    As the operations are fine tuned and benefits realized, they then begin a phased roll out to larger and larger populations. We're only in the second inning.
     
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    "Logic" and "TSA" are mutually exclusive terms.
     
  17. mattsteg
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    No, it's not ridiculous. Selection for the program is based on information - either about their flying levels for elites or a very thorough background check for those qualifying through trusted traveller programs. The checks, processing, etc. have a cost to them. It's perfectly reasonable for the people benefiting to bear at least part of that cost.

    Complain all you want about the standard security procedures - if there's a problem here it's with them, not with this program.
     
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    Actually, I think that the article missed Dulles on the list - it can be found on the TSA website for a 2012 implementation. I know I am happy to see it there!
     
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    The article actually misses several airports on the official TSA press release, including EWR, IAD, and IND.

    So, UA - at what elite level will we qualify, and when will you release details about reimbursement for GE for Plats and higher?
     
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    I heard in a TV news story they are going to allow People with security Clearances i.e. from work (defense contractor) could join the program since they already have had background checks. Anybody seen info on this?
     
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    I cannot wait for this to come to EWR for UA
     
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    If that's the case, they will need more than a single lane at DC area airports. :)
     
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    Glad to see TSA TT is coming to BWI. I am there every month!
     

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