Minimum Mileage Guarantee

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  1. John777

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    Does the 500 mile minimum for elites count for both EQM and RDM? Since qualifying for PLT, I have not taken a flight shorter than 500 miles, so I'm curious how this is handled as I'm flying MIA-NAS next week.

    Thanks!
     
  2. miamigrad
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    Yes, it still exists for elites (see exceptions listed in the link):
    http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/eliteStatus/minimum-mileage-guarantee.jsp

    What DOESN'T exist is a 500 EQP guarantee
     
  3. John777

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  4. miamigrad
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    Yes, it is for both. For itineraries <500 miles, you will receive 500 EQM toward status, actual EQM toward lifetime counter, and 500 RDM (actual + "bonus" to bring you to the 500, in addition to whatever elite bonus that you might get)
     
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  5. John777

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    Excellent. Thank you!
     
  6. Mike Reed

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    Actually, this is misleading with respect to RDM. As a PLT, you get a minimum of 1,000 RDM per segment - the 500 minimum miles + a 100% bonus. So Golds get a minimum 625 RDM.

    The EQM minimum is 500, as stated, and that makes the EQP minimum 250 (for existing elites).
     
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    I respectfully disagree, but I understand that each person processes information differently. The way you've presented the information also makes sense with respect to the OP, but then you have to also state how it works out for a Gold - which is why I generically stated "in addition to whatever elite bonus that you might get."

    I'm not sure how that is misleading, but again... I understand that what is clear in my mind might not be to others.
     
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    Okay, perhaps I need a better word than misleading. Ambiguous? I'm absolutely not trying to infer intent or ineptness... and your point about having to explain at each level is valid.
     
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    Okay, perhaps I need a better word than misleading. Ambiguous? I'm absolutely not trying to infer intent or ineptness... and your point about having to explain at each level is valid.
     
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    "Wrong" works.
     
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    Except he wasn't wrong, he just didn't write out the exact math like Mike Reed did.
     
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  12. John777

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    I re-read and see I'm mistaken. Apologies.
     
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    The only thing that I know of that the 500 mile minimum doesn't figure into is the "Million Miler" miles. As far as I know, only miles actually (or on some partner airlines, a percentage of Million Miler Miles) flown figure into Million Miler miles.
     
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    That's a good question. On a flight of 200 miles... which will count towards MM? 500, 200 or 250????
     
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    200.
     
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    That wasn't a question, it was a statement. "only miles actually (or on some partner airlines, a percentage of Million Miler Miles) flown figure into Million Miler miles."
     
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    BTW, for those qualifying on points, for flights of fewer than 500 miles, you earn the 500 mile minimum times the points ratio for your fare class (0.5, 1.0, or 1.5), so you'll earn a minimum of 250, 500, or 750 EQP.
     
  18. John777

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    This is only for those who already have elite status, correct?
     
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    It's for those trying to achieve or maintain elite status using elite qualifying points. You can qualify (or requalify) for a status level based on how many segments you fly, or how many elite-qualifying miles (EQM) or elite-qualifying points (EQM) you earned. Basically, there are three "odometers" and every time you fly on a paid ticket, each goes up by some amount. You qualify for status when any one of the three hits a threshold.

    The segment counter goes up by one each flight
    The miles counter goes up by the flight miles (for elites, or the 500 minimum) of the flight
    The points counter goes up by 0.5, 1.0, or 1.5 times the flight miles (for elites, or the 500 minimum) of the flight. The 0.5, 1.0, 1.5 is determined by the fare code.
     
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    Well aware -- was referring to the 500 mile minimum being applied to EQP accrual. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
     
  21. gemac
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    Correct. Only minimum miles for those who already have elite status. Since points are based on the factor (0.5, 1.0, or 1.5) times miles earned, non-elites will get points equal to actual miles times the appropriate factor.
     
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    Sorry for not picking up the core of your question, and hence answering too much.
     
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    Some excellent information for MP readers nonetheless!
     
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    Sorry to drag this back up...

    I'm on a LAN flight on a fare that will accrue 0.25% EQM which means that I will earn 143 miles for a 570-mile flight. Does the minimum apply in this case? I know that the site says that we will earn a minimum of 500 miles for flights under 500 miles, but this flight isn't under 500 miles, just the mileage that I will earn. (I think I know what the answer will be, but I am a very optimistic person which is why I'm asking the question!)
     
  25. anabolism
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    Sorry, but I think you fear correctly -- my understanding is that the formula is:
    so the minimum mileage guarantee applies before calculating the earning using the percentage based on fare.
     
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