Mileage run to hong kong

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  1. manfromkrypton
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    Following the tips learned at the Chicago seminar, I am planning a mileage run, and thinking of going to hong kong on Cathay business class over thanksgiving. Has anyone done CX business? If so, would love some advice on the following:
    1. What exactly do I need to do on the AA website to ensure that I buy a ticket that will earn me EQMs? I have a reservation right now for a flight that has a AA flight number but says operated by CX. Is that good enough?
    2. How many miles exactly will I earn? Gcmap says 15587, is gcmap accurate in terms of EQMs?
    3. Do I need a visa for hong kong or is it just get on a flight and show up (of course will research this more, but looking for experiences)

    Anything else one can offer for my first international mileage run?
     
  2. tom911
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    I redeem in that direction so I'll defer to someone else on the first two questions. If you're U.S. resident you don't need a visa for Hong Kong for tourism.

    I have photos from my Cathay SFO-HKG in business class in July/August HERE.

    Tom in Berlin today
     
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    I'm taking the same MR but after thksgiving on UA. If you are a US citizen, and only going to HKG, you do not need a visa. Its only if you leave HKG and enter "mainland" China that you would need a visa. You would also need one if you were going on a 91 day MR.

    My understanding is that since the flight is being operated by CX, CX will be the determining factor for miles. You need to see what AA credits for the CX fare class that you are on. Hopefully an AA expert can confirm that for you.

    I use www.webflyer.com/travel/mileage_calculator/ for mile calculations and its spot on.

    Enjoy the MR....is it your first one?
     
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  5. DestinationDavid
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    You're confusing the class of service bonus for EQM. Almost all AA fares earn 100% EQM. Premium fares on AA earn extra EQP, not EQM.

    Class of service bonuses are for RDM only.

    So unfortunately his flight will earn 100% EQM and 150% EQP.

    Edited to Add: I've found GCMap to be accurate to within a mile or two for EQM. You could also look at AA's PDF schedule on AA.com.
     
  6. alohastephen

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    Do you mind if I ask what kind of pricing you are finding in biz class? Seems like the YQ would be quite high unless there is a way to FD this?
     
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    i'm actually ticketed for W coach. And with my minor UA status at the moment have the exit rows in Y. A kind friend of mine gave me a couple of her SWU's to help me move to C. Sorry I couldnt be of more help. When I first was looking at tickets, C was in the 5-7k range.
     
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    I see. I have never been on a mileage run yet. As I am usually in Asia, I thought that this routing may finally be a possibility for me. So far, the best ticket I have found is around $700 for about 14500 miles in AA econ. The biggest problem seem to be the added fuel.

    By the way, thank you for the mileage calculator.:)
     
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    4.8cpm is on the high end of reasonable MR pricing, but if you have significant elite implications by doing this run, then its a fair deal. I'm not at all an expert on the fuel dump piece and thats something I need to study up on. The key is to understand EXACTLY what your fare class will credit in terms of miles. I know on the Star Alliance side, there are fare codes that credit as low as 25% of miles flow, and sometimes dont even count towards elite status.
     
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    manfromkrypton - business class - either on an AA or a CX flight number, will earn 100% elite-qualifying miles, 1.5 elite qualifying points per mile, and a 125% redeemable miles (counting the 25% business class-of-service bump.)

    If you're flying on an AA flight number, and don't have AA status, then by all means enroll for the Platinum Challenge. After 10,000 qualifying points (see above) on either AA metal OR AA-numbered codeshare flights, earned within a 3-month period from enrolling in the challenge, you'll be made Platinum (Oneworld Sapphire) and will receive a further 100% redeemable mileage bonus on the qualifying and all subsequent flights.

    So for example if you're flying ORD-HKG (around 7790 miles each way) you'll hit 10,000 EQP on the outbound flight (7790 x 1.5) thus you'll receive Plat status and around 17,500 redeemable miles for the outbound leg, and the same returning, for a total of over 35,000 redeemable miles plus Platinum status good through February, 2013.

    The Challenge costs a couple hundred bucks to enroll (not sure of current prices) but given the above it seems like a no-brainer. We don't seem to have an entry in the MP FAQ regarding the challenges, so look here instead: http://www.flyerguide.com/wiki/index.php/Challenge_(AA)
     
  11. DestinationDavid
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    Perhaps quoting him instead of me would be better so he gets the notice. :)

    Also, his signature says he's already PLT and seeking EXP, so not sure a PLT challenge is in the cards for him. If he gets a seat on the OWMD and has status on UA/CO/DL/US he might benefit from the EXP challenge though (not likely, but dream big, right?).
     
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    Doh. It's morning here. Sorry.

    (I quoted you because I thought you said 125% EQP, but I see that it does say 150%. My bad again.)

    (Slinks off to the coffee pot.)
     
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    One thing. BE HONEST when you are questioned by passport control. They may ask why are you only staying for hours or for only one day. Just tell them you're there because you needed the miles for your freq. flyer program. they may look at you funny, but they'll stamp your passport. If you start to get creative, they may decided to delay you a bit for more questions.
     
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    speaking from experience?:)
     
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    Fortunately no. This was a piece of advice given to me when I first started doing MR's and crossing borders. Thought I would just pay it forward.......
     
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    No Visa is necessary to visit Hong Kong for Americans.
    Not sure how much time you plan to spend in HK but if you have an extra day I highly recommend a day trip to Macau. The ferry is pretty cheap and takes under an hour to get there!
     
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    Just make sure to give yourself plenty of time if you go to Macau for a day trip. We were in the immigration line for nearly an hour when 3 or 4 jetfoils arrived at the same time. The old Portugese area was neat, but the casinos (that I saw) seemed just like anything you'd see in the US. The ride on the jetfoils is pretty neat though.
     
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    For how long will you be in Hong Kong? There are some lovely walks and hikes if you have the time.
     
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    Thanks for the link. I'm heading out there for a few days later this month and looking forward to the dim sum again.
     
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    As a regular flyer to HKG please do not forget the following if you're on CX. There is The Wing just beside gate 2 which is the best lounge in the world IMO. The FC part (OW Emerald usually gets you in too) has Cabanas that are small rooms with a chaise lounge, a jacuzzi and separate enclosures for the toilet, shower and wash basin. Being there is sybaritic. There are lots fo amenities inside and many more that you can request.

    There si a noodle bar, a very long long bar and lots of publications and work areas, not to mention the Library.

    Right now (as of yesterday anyway) only the FC part is open because the remainder is being refurbished. As a result the only entry now is on Level 7 just to the right of the security gates. That entrance is not too well marked.

    The Wing justifies a MR all by itself for me.
     
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    Awesome. I've already set a reminder for this in the upcoming trip to visit The Wing. I'll be flying FC in CX for the first time. From the second-hand trip reports I've heard, the lounge + FC experience will be one of the highlights for sure!
     
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    Oh man, how did I miss that one?! I was flying CX from DME to DPS via HKG in business and I am also a OW emerald. I did visit a FC lounge but I doubt it was that one. They had nice food, drinks but I don't remember seeing Cabanas or jacuzzi :)
     

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