Manhattan Airport: Should Manhattan Have Its Own International Airport?

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  1. Canarsie
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    Funny. Someone is pretty good with WordPress.

    This was my favorite quote:
     
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    Good article! :)
     
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    Four airports in NYC :eek: ;)
     
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    The title of this thread is strange. Manhattan has had an airport for many years and it has serves it's constituency well. I admit it is not an international airport but it certainly is commercial.
    http://www.ci.manhattan.ks.us/index.aspx?NID=1341

    BTW, why all these irrelevancies about New York City? That has nothing to do with MHK, and there is no waterfowl there for the simple reason that there is not too much water, nor, come to think of it, are there too many people either.
     
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    That's one long taxi ride to Rockefeller Center. :p
     
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    And another thing. Manhattan already has a commercial airport. It is used only for air taxi and general aviation, but it is an airport all the same.
    6N7 is the official airport code. here are the details:
    http://www.airnav.com/airport/6N7
     
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    What is Rockefeller Center? Is that in that other place, that island that has the same name as MHK's city?
     
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    Yes. The island may have Rock center, but it does not have the Riley County Fair, Rodeo and Parade!
     
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    In fact, IIRC, the island is not even in Riley county but in New York County, which also includes some territory that is not on the island at all, but on the mainland. I suppose that is another story but those of us who attended events at Baker Field were mostly aware of the distinctions.
     
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    Would more people go to Prospect Park were this to happen? Imagine A380 descending along 6th Anenue:eek: BTW, Central Park seems to be 13,200 feet long, roughly, so there really would not be enough space for approach and departures. However, I suppose on could eradicate everything between 5th and 8th avenues from 59th St down to, say, 55th St. No more Carnegie Hall! Could also wipe out 110th to 125th st on the North side, so the Columbia Campus would have a nice view of arriving and departing aircraft.

    What a good idea! The waterfowl could move to Jersey just like most of the other birds. We could then close JFK and repopulate Jamaica Bay.
     
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    Hopefully the fixed taxi fare from Rock Center to JFK of $45 will be honored to MHK as well.
     
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    Very true. Perhaps we should launch a campaign against such a duplicative effort! It already has a long, wide runway, and very light utilization at 83 operations per month. We'll have to so something about the heavy boat traffic.

    Runway Information
    Dimensions: 10000 x 1000 ft. / 3048 x 305 m
    Surface: water
    RUNWAY N RUNWAY S
    Traffic pattern: left left
    Seaplane Base Ownership and Management from official FAA records
    Ownership: Publicly-owned
    Owner: NEW YORK CITY
    Manager: JOSEPH CIPOLLA
    2430 FDR DRIVE - EAST SERVICE ROAD
    NEW YORK, NY 10010
    Phone 212- 686-4546
    CELL # (917) 399-7713, EMAIL - NYSKYPORT@GMAIL.COM

    Seaplane Base Operational Statistics
    Aircraft operations: avg 83/month *
    50% transient general aviation
    50% air taxi
    * for 12-month period ending 30 November 2010

    Additional Remarks
    - E RIVER-VELOCITY 2.6MPH IN SSW DRCTN. HVY BOAT TFC IN RIVER.
    - PILOTS REQUIRED TO TAXI 1000' OFF-SHORE ON MANHATAN SIDE BEFORE BEGINNING TAKEOFF.
    - PILOTS REQUIRED NOT TO FLY OVER THE 59TH STREET BRIDGE.
    - 3 BLADED PROPS REQ'D ON ALL SEAPLANES.
    - PILOTS MUST COMPLETE A PROVING FLIGHT W/AN AUTHORIZED MEMBER OF THE N.E. SEAPLANES PILOT'S ASSOC. PRIOR TO SPB USE
    - NO TIE-DOWNS AND NO OVERNIGHT STAYS AVBL.
     
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    The runway width is fine for the A380, and the length is good too, especially since the runway is at sea level. The bird activity might be an issue, and Chesley Sullenberger suggests maybe the runway is a trifle soft for most airplanes; apparently the pavement is not well reinforced.:eek:
     
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    Sully prefers the west side. Far fewer bridges to contend with!
     
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    It is wider there too.
     
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    I almost always use words such as supposedly, allegedly or reportedly, as stranger things can happen as the result of a joke or hoax...

    ...and I personally would not advocate Central Park to be bulldozed to become an international airport, but I have always been interested in re-designing and improving New York City. In fact, that became a self-chosen project of mine back in college and, as a result, I received a grade of A for my ideas...
     
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    Ah, but it is such great fun! Once I got to college I managed to do well academically, despite having been expelled from two different schools due to my non-conformist views. Advocating a new airport seems such a good idea.

    We don't have FLU anymore although the code exists. It hurt me when it closed because I was just beginning my flight training and had to move to HPN.

    That affront was almost as bad as losing NOP, although it lives on as NY22 because the NYPD still keeps its helicopters there. Brooklyn still has an airport, sort of! It was NYC's first official airport.

    NOP.JPG
     
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    So what's the difference between a grade of A

    and

    Grade A :p :D
     
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    ...a scholastic accomplishment versus a designation assigned to select eggs, meat, etc. from the United States Department of Agriculture...
     
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    The giveaway was the support supposedly garnered from environmentalists. :D
     
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    I wonder how many of us on here have flown in/out of MHK?? :) I remember thinking, "Wow, I'm out in the middle of nowhwere..." It was my first visit to KS.

    :D
     
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    I remembered it only because I flew in and out of there in a Mooney (a tiny single engine airplane) many, many years ago. There was nobody there other than my friend and myself other than the nice man who pumped our small amount of avgas. He said they'd not had another flight that day. I believed him!!
     
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