Longest *domestic* flights in the world?

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  1. jmgriffin

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    Prepared this mostly as a blog post but figured you guys over here might enjoy the info, too. This is really more of a rough draft, I've done extensive research but may have missed a flight that would bump one of these out of the running--if so, please let me know:

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    Maxed out on 5 pics, more can be seen here: Weekend Blitz - TOP 10: LONGEST DOMESTIC FLIGHTS IN THE WORLD

    You'd think that this was a cut and dry topic, but it's far from it. What flights should count? Non-stop only? Contiguous countries? Territories and dependencies (they do often have the same currency and government as their mother country). As a result we've had to categorize the list a bit. We'll start with a little background: the IATA (International Air Transport Association) defines "domestic" as two places with the same ISO country code. Contrary to the IATA definition, however, the regular passenger considers domestic flights as those where they do not need to pass immigration on departure and arrival.

    LONGEST NON-STOP DOMESTIC FLIGHT

    The winner: St. Denis, Reunion-RUN to Paris-CDG operated by Air Austral covering 5,809 miles in 11h 10mins on a B777. This is same ISO code to same ISO code, so quite technically it's the longest non-stop domestic flight in the world.

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    In addition to the CDG-RUN route, Air France, Air Caraibes and Corsair International operate flights from Paris-ORY to Reunion-RUN, which is just 7 miles shorter than the CDG-RUN route for a total of 5,802 miles.

    Runner up: USA coming in for a strong second with New York-JFK to Honolulu-HNL at 4,983 miles in 10 hours and 50 minutes. Operated by Hawaiian Airlines on an Airbus A330.

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    Worth noting: Either France had a much larger Empire that I realized or they've just maintained control of the territories longer than say Portugal or Great Britain and can therefore be qualified as domestic. Either way, with these two flights below, France's total has jumped to 3 of the longest domestic flights in the world.
    - Paris-ORY - Cayenne, French Guinea-CAY (ISO Country: FRANCE) - 9h 15m flight - 4,401 miles. Flown by Air Caraibes & Air France from ORY.
    - Paris-ORY - Fort-de-France, Martinique-FDF (ISO Country: FRANCE) - 8h 50m flight - 4,259 miles. Flown by Air France, Corsair International and Air Caraibes from ORY.

    Longest non-stop domestic flight within contiguous country

    Winner: Moscow-DME to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky Airport-PKC clocking in at 4,224 miles. The flight takes 8h 40mins on Transaero’s B777-300. A very close second, but technically the same market, is Moscow-SVO to PKC, coming in just 21 miles shorter at 4,203 miles. This flight takes just 8h 05mins on Aeroflot’s B777-300ER (Rossiya Airlines sells tickets as well). Super impressive that this flight doesn’t pass over borders or water.

    Runner-up: The second longest domestic flight is from Sakhalin, Russia-UUS to Moscow-SVO for a distance of 4,140 miles. Aeroflot’s Airbus A330 makes the trip in 8h 50 mins.

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    For comparison: The longest non-stop flight in the contiguous 48-states is Miami-MIA to Seattle-SEA on American Airlines at 2,724 miles in 6 hours 40 minutes. So, yes, if there’s one thing Russia is still better than us at, it’s being fricken enormous–really giving Texas a run for its money.

    LONGEST DOMESTIC FLIGHT WITH STOP

    The winner: Paris-CDG to Papeete-PPT with a stop in Los Angeles-LAX. The cool thing? LAX couldn’t be anymore perfectly in route: the total distance with a stop at LAX of 9,765 miles – exactly matching the total distance if it could be flown directly. The flight is operated by both Air France (on a B777) and Air Tahiti Nui (Airbus A340) and takes a total of 22h 30mins: 12 hours from CDG-LAX, a 2 hour stop and a final 8h 30 mins on the LAX-PPT leg.

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    Now should this officially count? Ehh, French Polynesia is just a territory but…Francois Hollande is the president. They do use their own currency, though. Either way, it’s on this list and pretty cool that you can fly CDG-LAX-PPT all on the same Flight #, without ever having to deplane (I think), although I’m sure you would at least want to!

    Runner-up: Houston-IAH to Guam-GUM with a connection in Honolulu-HNL. Flight #201 is operated by United Airlines and is technically 7,705 miles, though you could argue that only the direct distance of 7,446 miles should be counted. The total westbound trip takes 17h 1min: IAH-HNL in 8h 12mins, a 1hr 4 min stop and a 7hr 45 min flight from HNL-GUM.

    Same debate applies with Guam as did Papeete, should it be included? Well Obama is the President, they have a governor and they use the US $ as their only currency. Sounds like ‘Merica to me.

    FRICKEN COOLEST DOMESTIC FLIGHT?

    Winner: RAF Brize Norton, UK-BZZ to RAF Mount Pleasant Airport-MPN (Stanley, Falklands) would come in at 7,840 miles if flown direct but since they have to stop for refueling in Ascension Island-ASI the total is 8,096 miles.

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    But what’s so cool about this flight? The British Ministry of Defence (sic–as with most words in the Queen’s version of English) arranges the flights and sells only between 10-30 seats per flight to civilians. It used to be flown entirely on Royal Air Force (RAF) equipment, but now is contracted out to different charter companies. They fly a few times a week and sell seats that aren’t needed for British Military personnel. Don’t expect any deals, though: the flights will run you about £2,222 roundtrip ($3,450!). More info available here.


    More pictures/full post here: Weekend Blitz - TOP 10: LONGEST DOMESTIC FLIGHTS IN THE WORLD
     
  2. viguera
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    I thought someone flew EWR-GUM non-stop, but now that I think about it that's probably a very limited market :)
     
  3. NYBanker
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    I'm disappointed to say I knew most of these in advance. F'ing geek that I am. ;)
     
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    Yeah, that might be a hard one to fill up!

    I've already had a few comments that I missed a few flights. I've updated the main post here, of course, Weekend Blitz - TOP 10: LONGEST DOMESTIC FLIGHTS IN THE WORLD. Here are the additions (causing some to move down on the list):

    UPDATE 8/10: Added AMS-BON route, thanks Scottbee/Boffin.
    Worth noting: A 3rd place medal goes to the Amsterdam-AMS – Bonaire-BON route flown by Arkefly’s 767-300 for 4,844 miles, scheduled flight time is 11h 0 mins.

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    Longest non-stop domestic flight within contiguous country

    Update 8/10: PlymSpotter points out that:
    • The longest domestic flight in Russia is actually AER-KHV at 4,287 miles
    • Moscow-VKO – PKC is actually a few miles longer than the DME-PKC route.
    • DME-UUS is 10 miles longer than SVO-UUS.
    • Updates have been made below.
    Winner: Khabarovsk, Russia-KHV to Adler, Russia-ADL clocking in at 4,287 milesis flown on a Transaero B767-200 in 9h 30 mins. Interestingly, the Transaero website says that they fly the route in 4,271 miles making them either guilty of a typo or magicians.

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    Runner(s) up: Just about all Moscow airports (VKO, DME and SVO) fly direct to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky Airport-PKC (I mean is that really necessary, Russia?), super impressive that these flights don’t pass over borders or water:

    • Moscow-VKO – PKC = 4,228 miles on a Transaero 767-300.
    • Moscow-DME - PKC = 4,224 miles. The flight takes 8h 40mins on Transaero’s B777-300.
    • Moscow-SVO - PKC = 4,203 miles. This flight takes just 8h 05mins on Aeroflot’s B777-300ER (Rossiya Airlines sells tickets as well).
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  5. Wandering Aramean
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    Nope; gotta stop in HNL (or NRT) to get there. And EWR-HNL-GUM is longer that IAH-HNL-GUM while never actually leaving the USA. You cannot get from CDG to PPT without a passport and immigration facilities.
     
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    I didn't know "Domestic" Flights went to other countries <lol>

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  7. dayone
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    Alaska gives Texas a run for its money. Cut Alaska in half and Texas becomes the third largest state.
     
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    Right, no doubt that Alaska is bigger but I was going for more of the "everything is bigger in Texas" angle here. Something about those Texans, they're just so damn proud of being from Texas....
     
  9. jmgriffin

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    I picked IAH-HNL-GUM because it is truly the same flight (same flt #, same aircraft) with just 1-stop in HNL: UA# 201 westbound, UA# 200 eastbound on B772. The EWR-HNL-GUM flight, to me at least, is more of a transfer in HNL and not necessarily a "direct flight with 1 stop".

    Is this sound logic?
     
  10. Wandering Aramean
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    Only sortof.

    It isn't always the same plane through and hasn't always been the same flight number. There was a period of time not too long ago where UA was running ORD-HNL-GUM as 200/201 because the IAH-HNL turn was still a sCO plane. It isn't anymore, but that's mostly just a technicality. Today's HNL-IAH #200 is coming from ORD-HNL, not GUM-HNL.
     
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    cdg-kix-nou is longer than cdg-lax-ppt

    for that matter so is cdg-run-syd-nou which used to be operated by Air Austral.
     

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