So I will have my first potential encounters with PE next summer when AC kicks off the YYZ-HND route with the 788 Dreadliner (I refuse to use the other "D" word for these flying sardine cans). This adds the tightly-packed 3-3-3 seating to the slimline seats for minimized Y comfort, making it even more urgent not to sit in the back. So how does PE (which I can live with, thank you) fit into this? I can't use eUpgrades to move from Flex to PE, and an eUpgrade from PE to J is the same as for an M fare, so nothing to get excited about there. What about LMUs? Has anyone been offered PE LMUs, either from PE to J, or from Y to PE? If yes, how is the pricing for those? Otherwise I think I'll stay with the YYZ-NRT route and the 77W, and leave the nightmares to other people.