LAX/SFO - HNL Flights Now Serviced Exclusively by B737-800?

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  1. NYCUA1K

    NYCUA1K Gold Member

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    This may be old news that I missed, but I just booked a trip to HNL (JFK-LAX-HNL RT) and noticed that the LAX-HNL RT will be on a B737-800. This route, which I've taken every November around my B-Day, except last year, used be serviced by B757-200. As you can see below, the B737-800 has16F seats, only one explicit E+ row (#7), and the exit row (#21) also being labeled as E+. The configuration appears to be one from the old CO days...

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    Did UA give a rationale for this change, which I view as a "downgrade" (at least the absence of a more extensive E+ section is a downgrade in my book)? On the other hand, I cannot complain too much because my RPUs for all 4 segments (2 x p.s and 2 x LAX-HNL) confirmed instantly at booking, fully 3 months out. With the U/Gs appearing to be so "easy", could it be that a 757-200 was overkill for this route?
     
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    I don't know what dates you booked but a random check for 11/9 shows 777-200 and 737-800 out of SFO; 777-200, 757-200 and 737-800 out of LAX.
     
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    If that is the case it may not be a wholesale swap of metals. I booked between 11/13 and 11/18 thru LAX, but it may be a coincidence that the flights that I picked happened to be on 737-8...

    Glad that the upgrades cleared!
     
  4. Wandering Aramean
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    The 752s are being retired at a rather quick pace. They're dropping from a lot of routes/frequencies.
     
  5. NYCUA1K

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    That being the case and if the replacement for the 752s are E+-less 737-8s as depicted above then that would result in partial or total loss of another benefit (E+) that is universally ranked very high by M+ elites...
     
  6. HaveMilesWillTravel
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    I didn't even realize that they still had mainline aircraft without proper E+ section. What's the plan here? Leave them as is for density?

    How far are AA and Delta with their E+-type conversion?
     
  7. Wandering Aramean
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    The planes without are going to get it, except for the GUM-based ones, AFAIK. And the GUM-based planes have been making some mainland turns every now and then for utilization and maintenance reasons, I believe.

    DL recently announced that they're putting more seats in a lot of their mainline planes, including the types which would be flying to the islands. And both AA and DL generally have fewer extra leg room seats than UA does on comparably sized planes, this particular 738 config not withstanding.
    From a fleet perspective the replacement is actually the 737-900ER, not the 738. On a route-by-route basis that may not be the case.
     
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  8. NYCUA1K

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    It did not bother me that I'd used the copyrighted material because precisely I did not claim it was mine, and I made sure that the (c)TripAdvisor was prominently displayed. Those are the minimum standards...
     
  9. Wandering Aramean
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    Uhhh...no. Just leaving the (c) on display doesn't mean you get to reuse it wherever you want.
     
  10. NYCUA1K

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    Like I said, it is the minimum standard, and as you helpfully indicated, it has already been taken care of. If we are going to scrutinize the use of copyrighted material more closely, let us do it, but do not crucify me for usage of copyrighted material I would have been happy to defend or TripAdvisor would not even have cared about. The worldwide web is big, very big and I followed the minimum standard...
     
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    In the long run all West Coast-Hawaii flying will be done by 738/739 and 753 aircraft with the occasional 772 thrown in for positioning or capacity. The non ps sUA 752's are all headed for retirement.
     
  12. Wandering Aramean
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    Really? TripAdvisor doesn't pursue copyright claims?

    What is this "minimum standard" you speak of? If you're suggesting fair use then you likely didn't get anywhere close. Or are you going to try to claim an educational exemption on this commercial, for-profit website?

    http://www.copyright.gov/title17/
     
  13. mikeschu
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    I was able to book a 753 LAX-HNL and back in November.

    I take it any 767s plying SFO-HNL are also going away? Not that I really cared for them, but I did see a couple of them on the schedule for November. (example: UA 72 on 11/8 and UA 73 on 11/1).
     
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    They may continue to be used opportunistically in the schedule, but mostly to fill in between the EWR/IAD-HNL flights. Otherwise you should generally expect to see 777s (islands config, not IPTE/sCO) where there is widebody service.
     
  15. NYCUA1K

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    Sue me and then go away, please.
     
  16. mikeschu
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    I had forgotten that the 762s went away, so UA 72/73 for the dates I mentioned are 764ERs right now. YMMV due to schedule changes/MX though. ;)
     
  17. Wandering Aramean
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    Pretty sure the 762s never really went to Hawaii. And the 763s haven't on the schedule since the interior upgrades AFAIK.
     
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    There also are minimum standards for respectful discourse. Aim higher.
     
  19. NYCUA1K

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    Typically a two-way street...
     
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    Just noticed that on an ORD-LAX December flight. We had chosen that routing and flight specifically with the 757 in mind. When they downgauged the flight, they threw us back into E-, which is what had drawn our attention.
     

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