LAN Orders five more B767-300ER

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    Aviation Daily reports:
    LAN Airlines’ order of five Boeing 767-300ERs doubles Boeing’s count for the civilian version of the twin-engine jet this year and helped boost the company’s total net orders through May 17 to 127.
    Boeing now has taken 13 767 orders in 2011, 10 more than in all of 2010. But four of this year’s orders were for USAF tanker versions.
    LAN ordered three 767s earlier in the year.
    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gene...rder Doubles Boeing 767 Bookings&channel=comm
    Nobody is saying anything about terms. LAN has rapidly growing need for long-range 200 seaters and cannot wait around for the long-delayed 40 new B787 on order, so the choice was of existing aircraft. It seems probable that these 767's were very, very cheap as part settlement for B787 delays.
    This wiki is of LAN's fleet:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAN_Airlines
     
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    No 777s for LAN....??
     
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    These are to tide them over until 787 begin to arrive. Rumor says they were very, very, very cheap.
     
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    Well, LAN does have a 777 freighter... hence my question...
     
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    It would be unsurprising to see them add more big freighters if the US/EU economies begin to pick up at all, just to carry fresh agricultural produce. At the moment I wonder if the 777 is fully committed?
     
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    yes.... SoFlyOn always insists on reminding me about all the darned Chileno producer that is available at his local supermarket... :p
     
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    I don't know SoFlyON. I ate Chilean blueberries for breakfast. Massive amounts of our fruits/vegetables that like temperate climes, come from Chile and less so Argentina. We seem to take Chilean and Argentine wines equally.

    You should not feel left out Gaucho because we take jillions of your cars and call them domestic. They cost more than blueberries, too.
     
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    Well... the car thing is mutual.... all the vehicles made in Sao Paulo and other Brazilian factories receive similar treatment here in Argentina.... heck, I have a 7 year old Golf GTi that aside from the chassis is 100% European parts, only it was assembled in SP and therefore allowed to be imported without the crazy duty..... seems like both auto markets are in the same boat.
     
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    True, except our threshold is now 65% local content, so the assembly trick no longer works here.
     
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    I think that Argentina and Brazil have mutual exclusion clauses that make the domestic denomination be goverened by special rules. Mexico is another special case for Argentina when it comes to vehicles.... not as lax as Brazil, but cars from Mexico pay less tax and duties than from other places.... EU, Asia, etc.
     
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    LAN makes more $$$ on a 777 full of cargo flying in various non-passenger routes all over the world than it ever would if they had to put a floor in with seats and actually serve people.
     
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    That is true of quite a few carriers these days. Just last week i was on US800 CLT-GIG. They offloaded nine already boarded passengers in order to accommodate last minute cargo. Such events have not been uncommon during the last couple fo years or so. I have had it from FRA, CDG, LHR and MIA as well as the CLT event, IIRC. Those were different carriers, different conditions, but all were quite prepared to offload passengers who held boarding passes in order to load unexpected cargo.
     
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    Pax are termed self loading cargo.....in this case the self loading cargo produced less revenue. ;)
     
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    Self loading cargo tends to move in flight too. is sometimes noisy and messy. That recalls the time in the 1970's when I flew with a load of live sheep from Christchurch to Jeddah.
     
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    In Chad, I flew as a pax on an Air Tchad DC-3 with goats tied down to the floor.
     
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    I was a PC too. I was coordinating the shipment.
     
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    Goats in F on Egypt Air during various of my domestic flights in the early 90ies..... :cool:
     
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    I dont dispute that..... so, when will they get a couple of 747 combis...???
     
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    I'd expect MD11 before that unless 744 maybe; they are getting cheap now.
     
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    MD11's....? Are these still being built or are you talking about used birds on the secondary market...?????
     
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    They've been out of production for years but many are still in service, most of them as freighters. They are difficult to handle but they have great load capacity at reasonable fule and maintenance costs, with cheap purchase price tossed in, so a number of freight carriers use them, following conversions of passenger aircraft.
     
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    Now that you mention this, I saw at least two MD11 birds of the LH Cargo fleet at SFO...... question is, are they still fuel efficient...? Considering where the jet fuel prices are...
     
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    What is LAN going to do with 40 787s???
     
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    At the moment the MD-11 wiki says
    LH Cargo has 18
    FedEX 63
    UPS 38

    KLM still uses ten for passenger service and TAM has leases on three, I think, to last until their 777's arrive. Those are the only ones left in passenger service AFAIK.
     
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    LATAM as well as LAN are in the position of having much more passengers and freight handled by non-regional airlines than by them. LAN wants more fo that market, and good nonstop flights from SCL will certainly go a long way to achieve that goal, won't it?
     
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