Ladies and Gentlemen, the boarding door is closed.....

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  1. gregm

    gregm Gold Member

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    Airlines Want to Get You On and Off the Plane More Quickly

    Only 73 percent of the flights of 16 airlines that report such information to the U.S. Department of Transportation arrived on time in July, according to the latest government data.

    Reasons mentioned include ”aviation system delays,” chain reactions from late-arriving planes, “factors within the airline’s control,” extreme weather, and security reasons.

    One other possible reason not explicitly listed: slow boarding.

    Stop me if this sounds familiar: You first wait in line for your zone number to be called after the VIPs get on. Once your zone number is called, you wait (freezing or melting) on the jetway to get inside the plane. Then your progress is impeded by the people in front of you removing items from their carry-ons and stowing them, putting on or removing sweaters, and generally making themselves comfy.

    And then you sit in your seat a while longer before the plane begins to head to the runway, as everyone else completes those same steps. Distance covered: probably less than 100 yards. Time elapsed: half an hour or more.

    Airlines are trying to speed things up, CNBC says. Here’s what they’ve done, or plan on doing:

    • “In March, United Airlines created clearly marked lanes for five different boarding groups,” and started using a “window-middle-aisle” boarding method.
    • American Airlines gives boarding preference to those without large carry-ons.
    • Southwest Airlines doesn’t assign seats. It just lines everyone up and shepherds them in.
    • Spirit Airlines charges a fee for carry-ons.
    • “In some airports in Mexico and at some smaller U.S. airports without boarding bridges, Alaska Airlines boards passengers from both the front and rear doors.” It’s testing that elsewhere.
    Engineering teacher Hank Scott has devised a slide-in aisle seat that can be temporarily pushed aside to widen the aisle during boarding and help people get past the slowpokes, CNBC says. He’s trying to get the design approved by the Federal Aviation Administration, and then it could potentially be tested on planes.

    Which airline do you think boards the fastest? What’s the best method?
     
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  2. clscholes

    clscholes Silver Member

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    It seems that no matter what the "style" of boarding, most things are impeded by the slow rate at which people place their overhead bags in the compartment. I'm not sure what the fix is here...board from the back to the front? Front to back (which is basically how they attempt to)...who knows.
     
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  3. Tad's Broiled Steaks

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    I don't know about specific airlines, but I feel that domestic flights in Japan excel in this category.

    Us USA folk have too much baggage, I guess. Charge more for carry-ons than for checked luggage?
     
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    "American Airlines gives boarding preference to those without large carry-ons."
    Hallelujah! And I hope that that AA actually measures the size of those carry-ons with their "cage", and then charge extra or check-and-charge for those oversized carry-ons! The "carry-on wars" remind me of flights during the '90's out of SJU, with folks trying to fit huge televisions in the overhead compartments. I'm waiting for someone to board with live chickens on my next flight... :)
     
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    Does any airline actually measure now? I know delta will let anything on. Lol
     
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  6. moongoddess

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    Except that this boarding scheme only makes the carryon wars worse, as some of those people getting on early because they don't have a carryon will no doubt be placing their personal item in the overhead bin instead of under the seat where it belongs. Which means the folks boarding after with carryons will take even longer to get their carryon stowed, as they have to look around more for space.
     
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  7. flyforawg

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    I'd set up a simulator at each gate and run the passengers on drills for putting their rollaboards up in the compartment. Anyone who can't so so within 5 seconds and be out of the simulated ailsle to let people move by while they take off any outer garments goes straight to the back of the line. ;)
     
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    Agree, IMO, if you're too short to reach the overhead bin or your bag is too heavy to go into the overhead bin, you should not bring a bag that needs to go overhead. Sorry, to all the vertical challenged!

    I've been on delta flights where they've gate checked or told a person that bag will need to be gate checked.
     
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    I have to. But if you go through security and get to the gate with a bag that obviously does not fit in the little crate, what will they do? Can they charge you for gate checking if it should have been checked from the get go?
     
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    Gate agent for AA asked this of me a while back. Think I was in DFW at the time. Fortunately, I've researched the dimensions and baggage sellers and bought a rollaboard meeting those guidelines. I slid it into the carrier cage and he was surprised it fit. Optical illusion appears to make this bag look bigger than it is. Anyhow it's a possibility, but my experience is less than 1% of the time I've been asked to use the cage.
     
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    I love the pax who decide to unload the things they need during flight while standing in the aisle AFTER lifting their carryon in the overhead. Seriously they can't dig these things out in the gate area and carry with them? I do...book, readers, iPad etc. But then the world revolves around them!
     
  12. moongoddess

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    I actually think this may account for more boarding delay than the oversized carryons do. It only takes a few shoves to figure out there's no way your steamer trunk's going to fit in the puny RJ overhead bin. But I've seen folks take several minutes to slooowly retrieve items from their carryon, stow the carryon in the bin, pull a few more items out of their personal bag, slooowly stuff that under the seat, leisurely take off their jacket and carefully fold it up and put it in the overhead bin - all while standing in the middle of the aisle, of course. Come on the plane organized, for Heaven's sake, and SIT DOWN already!
     
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    Another favorite of mine, three passengers traveling together and can't decide who's going to sit where. It's like watching musical chairs...up and down...in and out and back again all the while a long line of others are backed up waiting for the song to end. Sheesh - figure it out people.
     
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