Lack of Saver C class TATL seats

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  1. weez
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    I've been looking for a saver C trans atlantic award seat for August 2011. I started looking at 330 days out and have just done another search, and basically there is one day (9 November) when there is 1 seat available in the next 11 months! There are plenty of F saver awards - just no C [​IMG]

    Anyone know why this might be?

    Thanks
    Louise
     
  2. RichardInSF
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    Yeah, this seems to be a longstanding tradition at UA (I don'[t know about CO). That's why you should book now before the differential between C and F increases TATL. Just go for the F if you have the miles. BTW, the same tends to be true trans-Pacific as well.
     
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    Are you just searching UA metal? Have you tried STAR carriers? Suggest you go over to the Aeroplan.com site and do an award search (no need to sign in or be a member) around your preferred dates. It will bring up STAR carriers as well as AC. Make a note of what shows up and works for you, then call MP and give them the flights/dates to book. I find the UA/MP booking engine one of the worst when looking for partner awards (and STAR awards are at the Saver mileage level).
     
  4. weez
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    Thanks I'll try that (STAR awards) as want 3 seats together rather than a 2 and 1
     
  5. Rob
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    Business travel seems to be improving, capacity is way down with the flatbed conversions, and demand is up because they're flatbeds and a pretty decent hard product. Not saying I like it, but it does seem kind of like a case of "No one goes there anymore - they're too popular".
     
  6. deant
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    You might go to this thread to help you find ways to find inventory. http://milepoint.com/forums/threads/newbies-guide-to-award-booking-without-elite-status.4124/

    However, one of the issues that I have seen is that LH has significantly reduced its number of F and C awards that they will allow *A carriers to book. From what I understand, this is, at least in part, due to bringing the A380 online. They are not allowing any C and F (don't know about Y) *A carriers to book awards on those flights. This is putting a big dampener on awards.

    Good luck trying to get 3 seats on one flight. I suspect you will be forced to break it up 2 and 1 IF you can even find available flights.
     
  7. gleff
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    I frequently do still see summer 3 business seats JFK-FRA. Not a lot of routes where we see 3 business class seats.

    Now, BA (not Star Alliance of course!) is another story entirely. And so if the Air France IAD-CDG A380 with tons of space in business.

    But 3 business seats IS hard though it DOES exist. Just don't restrict yourself to UA metal.
     
  8. ozstamps
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    Ha! Try finding a C seat to AUSTRALIA!! :D
     
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    Remember that LH flies into a good bit of cities in the US. I know of one such US city where availability always looks pretty good to me.;)
     
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    Off the top of my head...

    IAH-FRA used to be awesome, less so recently.
    DTW-FRA is still pretty good
    JFK/EWR-FRA is pretty good
    SFO-MUC and LAX-MUC are easier than SFO-FRA and LAX-FRA (though LAX-FRA does sometimes exist).
    BOS-FRA and especially BOS-MUC are good
    CLT-MUC in F is really quite available
    ATL-FRA is C is often open, rarely F
    IAD-FRA is still pretty good
    DFW-FRA is decent
    DEN-FRA can be tough to get
    ORD-FRA/MUC goes in spurts
    ORD-DUS is pretty available
    YYZ is tough
    MCO is pretty easy, MIA used to be doable but the A380 on MIA-FRA made that go away
    YVR is tough, YYC easier
     
  11. RichardInSF
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    Just came back on two MUC-SFO F awards, it's a fine trip. I wouldn't recommend C on the A340 though, it sure didn't look either very competitive or comfortable.
     
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    I wouldn't recommend LH C on any of their planes.
     
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    I've flown C on the A340 on LH. It is pretty good. It was akin to the AA biz seat on the 777. Is it CO and/or UA lie flat good? No, it is not, but it was just fine for me. Ok, I guess I should note that I am a side sleeper though.
     
  14. Hartmann
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    But, why would you choose LH C when there are lie-flat options out there for the same price?
     
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    Fair point ... for me if LH has C seats at the low award rates out of CLT and none for UA or CO out of their gateways, I don't see that as a bad spend.:)
     
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    I've also seen good availability on:
    EWR-DUS
    PHL-FRA
    YUL-MUC
     
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    Actually I did a month ago for late April, via PVG from North America on NZ to MEL and TG back. BTW also found C award availability on LH's A380s ex-JFK early September.
     
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    It's a few hours and if you want a free trip to Europe in the peak summer season in a premium cabin beggars can't be choosers!
     
  19. RichardInSF
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    That is a really LONG way to get to Oz, and since it's an award ticket, you don't get miles for all that extra distance!
     
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    LH does seem pretty good but my comment was UNITED from USA-OZ-USA ... try finding 2of those in saver C for ANY day!
     
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    But it's all premium cabin travel which really maximizes the redemption value. Isn't that the other side of the mileage equation, to max out the distance flown and the cabin amenities of our redemption?
     
  22. Hartmann
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    No, from my gateway it's 9+ hours in a lie-flat at an angle seat that is incredibly hard. If I'm burning miles I want to get the most for them (I don't consider it free).

    I've found plenty of summer availability on a few carriers with a minimal amount of searching.
     
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    Yeah, those are crazy hard. I had an easier time getting NZ C SFO-AKL-SYD last year at this time than UA C!
     
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    United availability SFO/LAX-SYD is incredibly tough to come by in C/F. Air Canada YVR-SYD is as well. NZ (YVR/SFO/LAX-AKL) isn't too tough during the Northern summer months. During other times of the year, I usually see C seats released exactly 60 days out from travel.
     
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    In September last last year I managed to book a saver ticket on United, MEL to LHR and back only 5 days before departure. And the whole trip was in C-Class!!! Take that ozstamps, or was I just lucky ;)
    Though advising the OP to wait so close before departure is rather dodgy....
    Good luck to you anyways :)
     

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