Kansas? Is that really the best that you can do AS?

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  1. Colonel G
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    I am sure there is someone excited about AS' announcement that they will start flying to KC, but not me. Even the double miles offered is not enough to get me to go there. What's next Toledo?:eek:
     
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    So it's not just me thinking this is a strange route to introduce. It just surprises me that there is sufficient traffic to justify the flight.
     
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    Maybe Boeing?:confused:
     
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    MCI is a great destination for a UA/CO mileage run. That's all I have to say. :cool:
     
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    I deleted the email unread after seeing the subject line. :p
     
  6. Jaimito Cartero
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    Kansas City is not in Kansas. :) ( at least the big one, isn't)
     
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    There must be some quantitative analysis to which we're not privy that demonstrated internally at AS that adding MCI would be nothing short of scrumpdillyumptious for them. I mean, I assume this, because without that, it seems like such a blah location. How about PIT? PHL? CLT? RDU? Or more routes to LIH or KOA?
     
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    Exactly my thought, MCI... Reallyyy!!!! Why couldn't they add PHL or more service from NYC...
     
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    Things like aircraft utilization, landing and other airport rental fees, costs of subcontracting ground support, etc., all go into the equation. That, when analyzed with the expected passenger and cargo revenue can make the 'not obvious' a good choice for the airline. For all we know, AS now has the contract to ship all the BBQ sauce to the Pacific time zone.
     
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    As long as they also have the contract to ship all the BBQ sauce to the Alaska time zone, I'd be quite satisfied.
     
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  11. My understanding is that AS targets routes that allow them to achieve a certain Return On Invested Capital (ROIC). I'm assuming that MCI must have met that threshold.

    I do think you are more likely to see central time zone routes added over eastern time zone. On an already over utilized fleet, its obviously easier to add those shorter flights in to the schedule.
     
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    WN has recently dropped this flight, and perhaps Frontier did as well. Filling a void is what it is. The same could be said for STL. My flights to and from STL were packed.

    ....and Kansas City is actually a nicer place than St. Louis.
     
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    According to the press release:
    http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=109361&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1615630&highlight=

    I'm not sure exactly how to interpret that statement, but to me its saying that there are 6 other larger domestic markets (from Seattle) that AS does not fly to...

    I would guess this route has something to do with some sort of expected high ROIC vs those other 6 (higher landing fees, or something?). It could be that KC is recovering faster from the recession than the other markets? (just a guess, I don't really know anything about who's recovering faster).
     
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    What's not to love about Kansas City? MMMM!

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    Are you showing off your burnt ends? ;)

     
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    Anyone going to be on the first SEA-MCI flight March 12? I am, partly for fun, but I am also headed to LAX Monday, so what better way than GEG-SEA-MCI-ATL-LAX. 4600 base miles, cheeeep fare, exit rows (or better), reclining seats, no little planes & not a single Q-400.

    I occasionally go to KC, and more often just pass through MCI changing planes. Done lots of 10 to 20 minute connections on DL, either as SDC 's or starting a second ticket on a 4 to 6 segment itin'y.

    Remember, it's not just Seattle area customers that might use an MCI flight, but all of the Northwest cities within a BLI-EUG-BOI-GEG circle that feed Q-400 traffic into Seattle. Additionally, MidWest and Southwest didn't work for most of those origins, UA is spotty, and AA worse.

    I happen to think it's a good destination for AS. It only uses 1 737 for half a day, and it might work as a good way for AS to send connecting passengers eastward from SEA on DL or AA. I'll be watching how those flights price out on AS, DL & Orbitz. There might be some surprising fares & connections show up by not routing through ORD, DFW or ATL, not to mention winter weather advantages.
     
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    If it is, it is because there's a lot of traffic flying between the city pairs that we never knew about! ;)
     
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    "Underserved" and "desirable" or "populated with people who actually travel" are clearly very different criteria. How about New Orleans? Or Salt Lake? Columbus, Cleveland, or Cincy, OH? All of these seem to make more sense. I'd even take a smaller destination with tourist-appeal, like Charleston, SC or Santa Fe over KC. OY.
     

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