JFK advice

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  1. sc801
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    I am making a connection in June from US Airways to TK at JFK (award tickets). I don't think I have ever flown through JFK but I do realize that the terminals are separate from each other. I believe US uses Terminal Two - and TK is located in Terminal 7. How long will it take me to travel from one Terminal to the other? I have a little over an hour. I was hoping to enjoy a lounge before departure, but that doesn't appear that it will happen. As these are different airlines, will I still be able to book all boarding passes at OLCI?

    There was also a 'change' in my itinerary - but I have not accepted the 'change' yet. Should I use this as an opportunity to move my US flight to an earlier time allowing more layover between the two?

    Any advice.... much appreciated!
     
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    US Airways flies out of Terminal 7 and TK (Turkish) flies out of Terminal 1. Assuming that your US flight is within the US, it should take you about 30 minutes to get from Terminal 7 to Terminal 1, giving yourself a little room for error. I'd say you're better off allowing a little more layover time, as you're going to have to clear security again.
     
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    I concur. Upon arrival head out to the train and it take it around to Terminal 1. You might have to wait a few minutes for the next train and time on the train shouldn't be much. However you will need to clear security at Terminal 1, and my one recent experience is that ID check was very very slow. One hour is cutting this rather close.
     
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    If you can use the schedule change to get more time for this connection, I would strongly suggest that you do so. One hour is very close under normal conditions and leaves no cushion for a late flight or other problems. It would be much nicer to have the time to relax about the train between terminals, not panic at security, and have time to enjoy a lounge before your international flight.
     
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    Another vote for adding more connection time if possible. You need to exit the terminal, get to the AirTrain, wait for the AirTrain, clear security again... one hour is pushing it, IMO.
     
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    i recently flew through Terminal 1 on Austrian in Business class and still had to wait about 40 minutes to get through the security mob. it was dreadful. add time if you can.
     
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    I'm concerned that you have only a little over one hour because you'll have to go through the security line at Terminal 7. The Airtrain (which is like a monorail) will take you for free from terminal 1 to 7 and the train runs every few minutes. But all of this is outside of security.

    If you can change your itinerary to a later plane at Terminal 7, I would do it. What would happen if you miss your connection?
     
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    I'll echo the try to change to an earlier flight if you can. NY airports experience chronic delays, especially for any flights that are a shorter distance from NY (followed by domestic, then international). You don't want to miss time on your trip because of bad weather or any other problem with the first leg of your journey. There won't be lounge time for sure with your itinerary, and other have said security can be a mess. There is often a priority line (not sure about TK) if you're seated in a premium cabin which could help but the lines are still slow and long.

    At JFK, there is a train that connects the terminals - follow signs to the airtrain. When you get to the station, there will be trains going in either direction. Just get on a train heading towards the higher number terminals ... this map should help you understand the layout (you could go in the opposite direction and change trains at Federal Circle, but that isn't worth the hassle).
     
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    Thanks for all of the wonderful advice! I checked my itinerary again (I posted this from my laptop away from home) and I actually have an hour and forty-five minutes to make this connection. It leaves CLT at 10:05 and arrives at 3:02. My TK flight is at 4:45. The other option is to drive to Charlotte and spend the night, and leave at 9:25 - arriving at 11:12. I don't mind getting there that early.... I would much rather have a buffer built in just in case of any hiccup along the way. I'm just wondering if there would be any sort of change fee on this (I'm CP with US).

    And, yes, as this is an award flight, I will be flying TK First. Will that make any difference in clearing security?
     
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    It's been a while, but you may need to check in with TK at T1 in JFK. The TK F check was on the right hand side of the security lane entrances. Once you check in with TK is if you look slightly to the left from the F class check in you will see two red boards with white letters VIP/FIRST/Business) this entrance will be surrounded on both sides by economy pax queuing to enter the screening area.

    This is the priority security area for T1.

    Someone who has flow out of there more recently can probably tell you if this is still accurate.

    If you still haven't accepted the change, you may be able to get US to move you to something that gives you a better connection without charge. If you have already accepted the change, you will probably be stuck paying the change fee :(

    Knowing US it depends on how drastic the change it, but they sometimes require award space to be available on the change. As a CP you may be able to ask you liaison to contact inventory management and ask they open up a seat for you due to the change being their fault.
     
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    No - I am banking on my not having accepted the Change yet. Thanks for the advice on 'where' to go at Terminal One.... a big help!
     
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    FYI, in another JFK terminal I still had a 15-20 minute wait on the premium security line last week. It helps, but is not a cure-all.
     
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    It hasn't changed, and it's a mess during rush hour.
     
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    Five hours from CLT to JFK sounds like this plane makes a stop somewhere (PHL?), which adds opportunity for it to be delayed. I would try hard to get onto the 9:25 nonstop and then enjoy the lounge.

    I don't understand the logic of how leaving at 9:25 rather than 10:05 means an overnight at the airport.
     
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    1:45 should be enough time, assuming the flights are on-time. I much prefer >2 hours at JFK. My last flight through JFK had a 2 minute wait for security (AA terminal - and yes I was shocked), but I've also been in lines >20 minutes at the DL terminal (and seen them even longer). For T1, I'd allow at least 1/2 hour - 45 minutes for security alone.

    I'd use the opportunity to try and get into JFK earlier.
     
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    Sorry - that was a typo.... leaves Charlotte at 1:05 -
     
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    This past September, so a good 6 months ago, flying out of T1 in LH F and it took me a good 20 minutes to clear TSA ID check. They just didn't have the man power and were being quite egalitarian.

    Edited to add: This was at 2PM (give or take).
     
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    Indeed, it will. Last time I passed through JFK T1 the TK F passengers were being escorted to the front of the security line by their agents. I actually walked around a family of 4 that was walked in front of me as they were not ready and I was. I also gave the TK agent some choice comments about interrupting the flow of passengers with a group that was obviously not ready to go through. Didn't do much good, but I felt better. :D

    The other thing for the OP to consider is that the trains do not make getting from T7 to T1 particularly easy. The all terminal train would require stopping at T5/6, T4, T2/3 and then T1 while the other trains would require going to out to the rental car facility, switching tracks (and levels) and then heading back in to T1. I'd opt for the former even though it is more stops as at least it is a single train.
     
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    Thanks - we are off to Rome today - but I definitely need to address this when we get back. As I said, I would rather have too much time instead of not enough. I'm not one for having to run to gates! At least being on that F award will help to facilitate my transit through security.
    I am going to try to get my flight moved to an earlier one. It will mean driving up the night before but that would not be a problem. That may work all the way around because I can leave my car parked at the hotel for less than in the lot at CLT.
    Does anyone know the lounge opportunities in Terminal 1?
     
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    I have to agree with the others that you will be cutting it close at 1 hr 45 minutes. If you are unable to change flights from CLT, I'd hope the weather is good and the flight arrives a bit early.

    While some think 2 hours is enough to change terminals at JFK, I always recommend 2.5 to 3 hours as a minimum connecting time--that allows for some of the normal snafus which usually occur between CLT and JFK including but not limited to air traffic delays.
     

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