Jan 3, 14- Passengers Stuck on Midway Tarmac for Hours

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    Hundreds of passengers found themselves in the middle of a nightmare at Chicago's Midway International Airport 16 planes were stuck on the tarmac for more than three hours.

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/traffic/transit/chicago-midway-delays-southwest-airlines-238573681.html

    The U.S. Department of Transportation in December 2009 instituted new rules prohibiting airlines from keeping passengers on an airport tarmac for more than three hours.

    The department said it is investigating the situation and Southwest Airlines could face fines of up to $27,500 per passenger.
     
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    Poor pax.

    BTW it is 2014 now (per thread title).
     
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    I never understood why it's so difficult to get people off a plane. Big deal if the gates are all full. Can't the plane taxi to a safe area, pax deplane and get put on a bus to the terminal? It's happened to me a few times and it's pretty quick and easy. Instead some airports keep pointing fingers trying to determine who's responsibility the bus is, or where to get a driver, and the fines end up being way more than just paying someone a few bucks extra to do it. I must be missing something.
     
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    My bad. I've asked the powers that beep to fix it.
    Great song, a classic on a par with Lake Shore Drive.
     
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    The video says it could cost "hundreds of thousands of dollars" At $27.5K for each passenger, the amount could be hundreds of thousands ($27.5K times 100pax is $2.75M per plane) times 16 planes. We are talking about possibly $30Million bucks that WN could be fined!!!!
     
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    Who gets the money collected from fines like these and what is done with it?
     
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    I get it and I won't tell you.
     
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    Fines like these are one of those imponderables, I think.
     
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    Sharing is caring, mate. ;)
     
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    Yes, I spent a good part of the 70's driving LSD in my Pintolllaic. (a modified Pinto, somewhat pimped up, so friends dubbed it thusly).
    Don't know the Clam Chowder version, I'll have to google it.
     
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    While the maximum possible fine is $27,500 per pax, IIRC the FAA has never had the cojones to charge more than a small fraction of that amount.

    If they did charge the full amount once, you would see the airlines racing to buy stairs and buses so they could deplane the pax. Currently, the fine (if one is imposed at all, and not later rescinded) is just a rounding error.
     
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    You're right. When the risk and possible fine are small, that is just factored in as a cost of doing business. The point of a fine is to modify behavior, to make hit a sufficient pain threshold that it acts as a significant deterrence.

    It's the same way the airlines factor in baggage loss and damage. The cost to them is small enough that is it more profitable to be careless than to keep things secure. (think about baggage claim at ATL- so easy for any thief to grab a bag, be out the door in 10 seconds and gone... the cost of securing it is more than the cost of paying off the victims).
     
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    Sadly, it appears the group has retired recently and its CDs are out of print, see link below:

    http://clamchowdermusic.com/index.html

    If you can't find their version of Lincoln Park Pirates somewhere, please let me know and I'll see if I can find it in my library.

    Or perhaps another fan of science fiction conventions (and folk/filk music) can help.
     
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