JAL improves domestic seat selection process

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    JAL has redesigned its domestic flights seat selection site. Now the seat map will be more closely resemble the actual configuration. They will even mark seats with extra legroom (well they called it extra foot room). Also more seats will be released for selection at 5pm the day before your departure date. More details here: http://www.jal.co.jp/en/dom/service/jizen/

    I hope marking seats with extra legroom isn't their first step of trying to sell those seats to non-elites :eek:
     
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    Hey they have to make more money to pay off their stakeholders.....all those ojisan have to retire you know ! Actually I was all excited I thought they were going to redo the seats on the rainbow 777 !:eek:
     
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    Nope :p They aren't charging for those extra legroom seats yet...just marking them on domestic flights...not so sure if there are that much demand for those seats on domestic flights which are really short...I would rather pay 1,000 yen to upgrade to class J instead :p
     
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    Yeah, I always worry about this turning out to be an 'improvement' that makes things worse for us :)

    I'm quite happy to be slightly more informed than normal passengers: perfect information ruins my edge :D
     
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    If they're marked as special seats, perhaps only elites will be able to select them until very close to departure time. That's the way some carriers handle it.
     
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    That would be nice, but it doesn't seem to be the way they do things here in Japan (everyone is equal, don't you know?). I guess the early booking for Saphire would allow you to snag them?
     
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    Equal in some ways, such as employees of the same vintage in a company and very heavy inheritance taxes tending to equalize the wealth distribution, but not equal in other ways, such as offering FC even on the NEX train from the airport, the bowing, the private clubs, the separation of classes in airports and on planes, the University of Tokyo and a few other places being so highly regarded that just getting in is so important,....
     
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    It also depends on your fare type. Higher fare will open up more seats for you to select
     
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    That was a very tongue in cheek, British, don't you know, kind of comment ;)
     
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    Japan likes to riff on this 'hey, we're all middle class' thing, but of course it isn't true :D
     
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    What really brought it home to me was that mummy's boy Hatoyama and his $100,000 a month allowance :p
     
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    Sorry, I'm not at all awake.
     
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    Well, the part that is partially true is that the average ratios of CEO compensation to average worker's salary and fringe benefits are lowest in Japan and Scandinavia, highest in USA among major developed economies.
     
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    Isn't that meant to be a benefit of elite status with ANA and JAL. "forward seats in domestic flights" for all JGC members and ANA gives it to all elites too yet i never see any difference with either airline with the seat selection if I'm logged in or some nobody is. It's a scam!
     
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    With DL, I see a big difference to the point where nonelites can have difficulty obtaining seat assignments before check in whenever the plane is moderately full and they are very likely to only be able to pick middle seats unless the ticket is purchased very far in advance. OTOH, as a DM, if there isn't a seat for me to select when I buy a ticket, overnight an excellent seat that otherwise would be held for airport control is opened and assigned to me, It's a nice system for elites like me, but doesn't permit kettles to get decent seats most of the time.
     
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    just that you don't see the differences doesn't mean it's a scam. Good luck getting good seats like the super seats on ex-JAS 777 in advance if you aren't a JMB elite or JGC member. When I reserved my class J upgrade, the incompetent Ken said no that seat is not available (blocked) when he first looked at the seat map. But then he realized I can select it in advance (probably after he actually tried to select the seat or something), he said oh wait that's open :rolleyes:
     
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    Interesting. You'd think they would just block out the first couple of rows in Y for elites Domestically but they don't.....That would be a simple solution.
     
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    seats available for selection also depends on fares not just status
     
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    This part seems very Japanese.
     
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    I can attest, after my recent MR, that if I'd had elite status it wouldhave been easier to get the class J seats I was trying for. If I'd had status, I could have booked the seats at the check-in counter. As it was, without status, I had to go on the waitlist and wait until after boarding started to get those seats. I was lucky enough to be able to get them, but had to wait to see if any elites wanted them.
     
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    However, elites and nonelites pay the same fee, right?
     
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    Yeah, unless they're using free upgrade coupons. AFAIK.

    The big difference is the elites can book early. JAL holds those seats for elites until literally the last minute. I had to stand at the standby counter after boarding had started and wait for my number to be called. If I'd had status, I would've grabbed those seats days/weeks earlier. Again, AFAIK.
     
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    Ah...nice to know that they enforce them until very last minute :)
     
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    Wow never knew this as i've always had OW status.
     
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    Yeah, it was kind of an extra motivator for me to work on the MR, LOL.
     
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