Is this a mistake - a 738 showing as 14First seats?

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  1. mht_flyer
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    I got upgraded this evening for a Tuesday EWR-DEN flight. I was just checking to see if it has DirectTv and noticed the following on the flight page:

    I assume no IFE -- is this one of the planes that has the temporary First seats? But 14 total F seat count (the upgrade standby page says there is 16 seats)? That seems odd to me? A mistake on their website?

    Bolding mine below.

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    Inflight Entertainment:

    Not offered on this flight.​

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    Inseat Power:

    Not offered on this flight.​

    Aircraft Specifications:

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    Aircraft:

    • Boeing 737-800
    • Capacity: 155 (14 First, 141 Economy Class)
    • Cruise Speed: 530 mph
    • Propulsion: Two General Electric CFM56-7B26 High Bypass Ratio turbofan engines, rated at 26,300 pounds thrust each
    • Wingspan: 112 feet, 7 inches
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    Seating:

    • First: 2-2 seating layout throughout most of the cabin. Seats have a 21 inch width and 38 inches of pitch
    • Main Cabin: 3-3 seating layout throughout most of the cabin. Most seats have a 17.2 inch width and 31 inches of pitch. Seats in rows 35-37 have a 16.2 inch width
     
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    This isn't a mistake...these airplanes actually have 14 seats and I do believe Row 1DF has way too much leg room.
     
  3. ssullivan
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    No, they have 16 seats. The only 14 F seat 738s left are the Micronesia ones operating out of GUM. Everything else is 16 F seats, except for the few mid-cabin lav 738s that are 20.

    What's the aircraft number that shows on the flight status page? That's the way to definitively tell what the configuration is.
     
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    I think you mean 1EF :)
    Which seats are missing? I see upgraded seats in most of the rows on my flight.
    So I just can't see where the two missing seats would be.
     
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    Missed your post before I wrote my prior post :)

    It is aircraft #415
     
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    There are 16 seats. The 14 seat listing for the capacity must be a mistake. The seatmap shows 16 as well.
     
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    Thanks that's what I thought, but I do assume they have those Temporary first seats though since it's not showing any IFE?

    What's the secret to knowing the configuration based on aircraft number, is there a list somewhere I can bookmark?
     
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    I was thinking that he was on one of these Micronesia aircrafts that got rotated in domestic...in any case the domestic 738s do have 16 seats...the GUM based ones have 14 but since CO is combining the Air Mike certificate with CO before the CO/UA combination it does raise a good question of whether the Air Mike configurations will last.
     
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    A/C 415 does not have temporary seats.
     
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    While I think Air Mike having it's own subfleet may have numbered days remaining, I doubt there is any connection between the operating certificates. The purpose of the subfleet was more for demand reasons. On the 738 for example, aircraft have smaller Y cabin (120), smaller F cabin (14), and obviously a larger cargo weight capacity and/or operating range. Therefore, I bet they will keep the same subfleet of 738's.

    They could rotate the 73Gs though.
     
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    The CO/CS certificates were combined at the end of last year.
     
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    Thanks, I just assumed that cause the amenity page showed no IFE.
    (and I flew one of those ac with the temp seats back in Jan hnl-lax and those have no IFE)
     
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    You're correct I was stating that the CO/CS certificates are to be combined before the UA/CO certificates later this year...
     
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    yeah, they blow but the Y seats are more comfortable IMO.
     
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    The only difference between the mainland 738s and the GUM ships is the configuration, 14F/141Y, the original layout for CO's 737-800. Cargo capacity, weights, and range are the same as their sister ships.

    Naturally, the GUM-based 737s do not have DirecTV or power.
     
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    I thought the GUM based 737s only had 120Y...
     
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    If I am not mistaken AC 415 is a 737-900. 800 series are 200 and 500 aircraft numbers unless something has changed.
     
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    This is correct. 415 is a regular 737-900, non-ER.
     
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    Do they ever get rotated over here? I've never seen one, nor heard of one, making it over to the mainland.
     
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    In which case it would be 20 F seats.
     
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    Although some segments may have seats blocked for weight restrictions, the GUM-based 737-800s are indeed configured 14F/141Y.

    0401-0412 are 737-900s, 0413 and higher are 737-900ERs. Thus, 0415 is a 737-900ER.
     
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    My bad...thought it was 416 and higher. ;)
     
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    Ahh... Yesterday my tuesday flight was showing as ac 415 today as ac 525 - must have been a website error.

    What's odd is it still sows no IFE, wouldn't a 738 (if it's not those ac with temp seats) have at least overhead video?
     
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    I've seen them get rotated to LAX a few times for maintenance and painting.
     
  25. then where is the weekly maintenance done?
     

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