Is it worth the Hilton Points or no!?!?

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  1. OceanCruiser7

    OceanCruiser7 Active Member

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    Going to Vegas in a few weeks for the first time (yeah, I know..)

    Need to know what to do for the 4 nights:
    Stay at Monte Carlo for $390
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    Hilton Grand Vacations Suites - (Convention Center) $476
    The only reason I am considering Hilton is because of points plus the bonus 5,000 points for staying over a weekend.

    Is it worth it??
     
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    Are there any other properties like the MGM ones that are around the same price? Have you used the Vegas thread on TOBB? There are usually some really good deals there...

    If not, I would go with the Monte Carlo instead of the Hilton...
     
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    I stayed at the Hilton Vacation Suites (near Stratosphere) several years ago. Downside, on The Strip but not near the big hotels, so getting around is more difficult. Upside, great room with full kitchen, jacuzzi, and plenty of space. We hit the grocery store the first day and saved a ton on meals, including grilling steak down by the pool on the grills.
     
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    If the 390 at the monte carlo includes the resort fee i would forgo the pts and stay there since it is a great location for wlaking around, much better than the HGVC but if you did not include the resort fee and i think its like 25 per night the Hilton loks pretty good
     
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  5. OceanCruiser7

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    Ok thanks. I will have to check and see if includes the resort fee. The HGVC is a little far off the strip from what I understand but I am Diamond at Hilton and working towards getting my points up for some top tier redemption stays.
     
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    You should be able to do much better than get just 5,000 points --- there's also a Visa promo that's good for another 5,000 plus the normal points you get for staying there, plus bonus points for airlines like Delta.

    DTWBOB
     
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    For me, a price difference of less than 100$ over 4 days will mean that I will stick with the hotel that gives me points - but that is only because I know where I want to use the points (in general terms) and would value the almost 20K points as much. (don't forget you'll get 1,000 points per night plus the 5,000 points per weekend).
     
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    I agree with DTWBOB. The More Points promo should earn you 1,000 pts. per night plus the 5,000 points for two night weekend stay. I'm earning 2,012 DL Skymiles for every two night stay right now and the visa promo is solid, as well.

    Jason
     
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    You might also call the HGVC and see if they will match the price at the Monte Carlo?
     
  10. OceanCruiser7

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    HGVC on the strip is giving us Mon and Tues for $100 total plus a $200 credit for use at a Hilton in the US.

    Which leaves us the Sat and Sun to qualify for the 5000 wknd bonus plus I will book with the Visa we have registered for the extra points. BUT just found out the HGVC just off the strip doesn't qualify for the promotion! Only two Hiltons in all of Nevada do!!
     
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    just curious, what's TOBB?
     
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    I always struggle with this type of question when I go to Vegas and have decided that for me at least I prefer the big resorts to anything the Hilton properties have to offer, though it really bothers me to pass up the points.

    In Vegas the combination of the pools and Casinos and restaurants and shopping add a lot to overall experience and I like to be staying right in the middle of it, so I usually pick based on a combination of price and quality (i.e I don't mind spending an extra $40-$50 to stay at Wynn/Encore or Palazzo)
     
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    I believe it stands for "The Other Bulletin Board"
     
  14. katstarr

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    I don't find hhonors points very valuable. I am a gold hhonors and like to stay at hiltons because they treat their golds well. but the points accrued are ehhh. I can't remember the last time I used my points at a hilton.

    5,000 points would be a lot at a Hyatt. At a Hilton, its bupkes (yiddish for beans).
     
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  15. MDDCFlyer

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    I'm not sure I agree with you - in Hyatt it would be about 1/4 for a night in the highest category, in Hilton it would be about 1/7 for a night in the highest category (if done right - AXON for example).

    Forgetting all the bonuses around, in order to get 5000 points in Hyatt you need to spend $1000 and in Hilton $500 (assuming you are double-dipping). So in the end it is a wash (for certain kind of redemption).

    Point for point, with no regard to how you get them or how you redeem them, your statement is correct - but in reality there are plenty situations that it is almost the same.
     
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    I agree. You have to figure out the earn rate to do a true point to point comparison. I recently earned over 16,000 Hhonors points on a two night, $212 weekend stay ( plus 2,012 Delta Skymiles).
     
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    In the end, all the mainstream hotels programs points would be similar to one another per $ spent. In a competitive market that what would happen. The differentiations than falls on the perks and how to get them and the quality of service and rooms. If one program was significantly better than the rest, it would have taken over.
     
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    I concur. I would rather stay where all the action is so I can walk to other casino's. I hate staying at the south or way up north of the strip.
     
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    who comes up with these things?
     
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    Yup it stands for The Other Bulletin Board aka Flyertalk.
     
  21. viguera
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    Walking in Vegas is overrated though... :)

    I'd stay at the Hilton and rent a car. Valet is free at every hotel on the strip anyway so it wouldn't add (too much) to the overall cost. It will probably take you just as long to hop in the car and drive to Caesar's as it would take you to walk there from the Monte Carlo.

    The Monte Carlo is a relic by today's standards IMO. If you were talking Aria / Palazzo or one of the Wynn properties I'd say do it, but unless you NEED to have a casino downstairs and you don't have any better options, you might as well write the Monte Carlo off.

    That's what I would do anyway.
     
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    Traffic on the strip is ridiculous at times. I would not want to drive in that and let alone wait for a valet to get my car. No thanks.
     
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    I'm gonna head over to FT and refer to MP as TOBB. :p
     
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    Traffic on the strip is ridiculous ALL the time, let alone on the weekend. Still, you can do what the cabs do and take the side streets, or you can pony up the cab fare and let someone else deal with the traffic. :)

    But my point was that I wouldn't discount the Hilton suites based on the perceived value of staying at the Monte Carlo, if staying close to everything is your only factor. That's the problem with all the mega-hotels out there now... they all take several city blocks each and walking from one place to another can get old really fast. :)
     
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    Unlike wheat27, I really love staying in a non-casino hotel in Vegas. With that said, I tend to pick based on perks (free breakfast & net) and rates rather than points earning, especially HHonors points.

    For non-casino Hilton properties: the Doubletree Club is a very refreshing change from the noise, smoke, and pushiness of the strip. Very sane and normal. There's also a Homewood Suites.

    I sent some relatives to a HGV property in Vegas last year and they were pleased, too.
     

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