International Saver Business/First?

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  1. PAinNY
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    Are these awards finished? I entered many different possibilites for any date and nothing comes up except an occassional BA with the outrageous surcharge. I tried Europe and Asia - nada - just economy.

    Thanks
    PA
     
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    I ran a random date this week, DFW to TYO through KVS tool and found First space immediately:
    [KVS Availability Tool 7.7.0/Diamond - Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP]
    Code:
    DFW  Dallas Metro / Dallas/Fort Worth TX US = DFW DAL [KDFW]
    TYO  Tokyo Metro JP = NRT HND
    WED  17 Dec 2014 | 2 Seats
    
    Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Award Availability
    ---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
    AA         61      DFW   11:25     NRT   16:15 +1       0   FS+
    
    Try looking for direct flights first from the international departure point. Also keep in mind that awards like CX don't show up on AA.com. So the ORD - HKG business flight on CX on Dec 25th doesn't show up on the website but AA likely can book it via a phone call. Use the BA site or other sites to find that space.
     
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  3. PAinNY
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    Iolaire,
    Thanks for the info and going to the trouble of looking on KVS however I would never be able to book only one week out. I try to make my plans almost 1 year out:)
    What I don't understand with CX is that if AA is asking 140,000 miles for busines is there a chance that CX would still have the saver award?
    Appreciate the help but the way USAir and now AA sell miles I doubt I will ever see availability the way it was a year ago.
    PA
     
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    Also if you suggest an itinerary and a date people will help suggest some routes that might work.

    Also AA only opens up at about 330 days out, are you looking past that? Re CX it just depends on what is open, CX has its own inventory.

    Here is NYC - HKG on Aug 26th, the Wednesday before Labor day, you can not get the BA flight via AA without paying for two awards, note that on Business is available for two people on CX:
    [KVS Tool 7.7.3/Diamond - Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP]
    Code:
    JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
    HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
    WED  26 Aug 2015 | 2 Seats
    
    Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Award Availability
    ---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
    CX         899     EWR   01:50     HKG   05:40 +1       0   FS-  CS+  YS+
    CX         841     JFK   10:00     HKG   14:00 +1       0   FS-  CS+  YS+
    CX         831     JFK   14:50     HKG   18:50 +1       0   FS-  CS+  YS+
    BA         178     JFK   08:05     LHR   19:55          0   FS-  CS+  YS-
     -> BA     27      LHR   22:00     HKG   16:45 +1       0   FS+  CS+  YS-
    
     
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  5. PAinNY
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    Also AA only opens up at about 330 days out, are you looking past that? Re CX it just depends on what is open, CX has its own inventory.

    Here is NYC - HKG on Aug 26th, the Wednesday before Labor day, you can not get the BA flight via AA without paying for two awards, note that on Business is available for two people on CX:
    [KVS Tool 7.7.3/Diamond - Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP]
    Code:
    JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
    HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
    WED  26 Aug 2015 | 2 Seats
     
    Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Award Availability
    ---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
    CX         899     EWR   01:50     HKG   05:40 +1       0   FS-  CS+  YS+
    CX         841     JFK   10:00     HKG   14:00 +1       0   FS-  CS+  YS+
    CX         831     JFK   14:50     HKG   18:50 +1       0   FS-  CS+  YS+
    BA         178     JFK   08:05     LHR   19:55          0   FS-  CS+  YS-
    -> BA     27      LHR   22:00     HKG   16:45 +1       0   FS+  CS+  YS-
    
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    Wow - that was fast and I like what you found. Now that I know it's possible I have to start planning. NYC to HKG would be ideal.

    Thanks so much for your help
    PA
     
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    I have noticed some routes not showing at all only few random dates on HA via HNL. I wonder if the 772 switch is playing part also
     

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